"Ring Messenger": Good movies are ruined by confusing logic

Rosie 2022-04-21 09:01:08

Yes, the logic of some movies is unimportant, and even some movies are good movies without strict logic. For example, "Journey to the West", which also talks about time travel, you have to study the logic of this film, which will make you feel broken.

However, some movies need logic, and a movie like "The Ringer" with a serious face needs logic even more. Moreover, the worldview of this film needs to be based on a rigorous logic. In other words, if the logic is flawed, then the whole movie is a false proposition.

No matter how emotional the finale of the film "The Envoy of the Ring" is, no matter how well the protagonist plays, no matter how fateful it is, the logic of one-hit-and-break-down makes this movie, which should be a great movie, unbearable to scrutinize.

The movie clearly points out that the ring messenger is actually just a low-level "scavenger", and their greatest value is to help the gangsters in the future world remove the damned, because the body can be tracked in the future. Simply put, as long as the corpse is not tracked by the future, it's OK. That being the case, why do you have to send people to the present and let the current people kill him with one shot, and then destroy the corpse? In my opinion, if it is just to deal with the corpse, it can be killed in the future, then use the time machine to send the corpse back to the present, and then arrange for someone to burn the corpse. Because it is clearly revealed in the movie that the person being teleported can be teleported back without having to operate the time machine. The ring messenger can completely transform into a senior cremator, without having to fire an unnecessary shot.

If that's the case, why do you still need this shot? Quite simply, in order to serve the "logic" underneath the movie, in simple terms, this is typical putting the cart before the horse. To make a simple analogy, I am hungry and want to eat. This behavior solves the problem of my hunger, and "Ring Messenger" has become the logic of "I deliberately make my stomach hungry in order to eat, even if I am very full now". Because for this movie, if the ring messenger is not allowed to shoot, the story will not go on.

Well, if this logic can be discussed, for example, people in the future world will be noticed once they die, so the explanation that they cannot die in the future should be more or less plausible. Then, the appearance of the old cloth is completely The paradox of time should appear.

Why did Lao Bu come to modern times? Because he's going to be cleaned up and his wife is dead. And how did he know his wife? I got to know him because he completed a perfect seal and then retired with a lot of money. The question now is, if he hadn't completed the ring and was hunted down 30 years ago, would he still go to Chi and know his wife (Xu Qing)?

OK, this involves a parallel universe issue. This is a question that all films about time travel may not be able to avoid, that is, the world where Lao Bu exists and the world where Xiaojong lives are parallel. A remarkable feature of parallel universes is that nothing you do in this parallel universe can change the ending that has already happened in another parallel universe. This is the best explanation for avoiding the paradox of "going back in time and killing Dad". At least, when the old cloth appeared, the film was still following the theory of this parallel universe.

But the taste of the film changes as the film is filmed, and the parallel lines cross! Therefore, we can see in the movie that any behavior of Xiaojong will have an impact on Laobu, which also directly leads to Xiaojong's suicide in the end, causing Laobu to disappear directly out of thin air, and Laobu wants to find the rain caller and kill him to change the future. , is also based on the theoretical basis of this "butterfly effect". That being the case, why hasn't the fact that you met Xu Qing because of the smooth sealing of the ring changed? In the movie, it is obvious that Xiaojong did not seal the ring smoothly.

Well, writing this, I have been detoured myself. All in all, for the theoretical basis of time travel in this film, it is completely arbitrary. Parallel when you need to be parallel, and cross when you need to cross. So, watch this movie, don't go into it, you will find that this seemingly awesome building will collapse in an instant. This question, in fact, is the same as the question about whether the ring messenger is needed or not. It is a mistake of putting the cart before the horse. That kind of mistake is unforgivable in a movie like this, so all I can say is that it would have been a good movie, but it was ruined by confusing logic.

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Looper quotes

  • Older Joe: This is a piece of indentifying information on the Rainmaker. He's here. He lives here now. In this county. And I'm gonna use this to find him. And I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna stop him from killing my wife.

    Joe: Fuck you. And your wife. None of this concerns me.

    Older Joe: This is gonna happen...

    Joe: It happened to you. It doesn't have to happen to me. You got a picture right there in my watch? Let me see. Show me the picture. As soon as I see her, I walk away. I'll fucking marry someone else. Promise. So when I see that picture, that fog inside your brain should just swallow up all the memories, right? She'll be gone. If you give her up, she'll be safe.

    Older Joe: Give her up?

    Joe: Yeah, give her up. You're the one who got her killed. She never meets you, she's safe.

    Older Joe: You don't understand. We don't have to give her up. I'm not gonna give her up. I'm gonna save her.

  • Joe: There's a reason we're called loopers. When we sign up for this job, taking out the future's garbage, we also agree to a very specific proviso. Time travel in the future is so illegal, that when our employers want to close our contracts, they'll also want to erase any trace of their relationship with us ever existing. So if we're still alive 30 years from now, they'll find our older self, zap him back to us, and we'll kill him like any other job. This is called closing your loop. Eh, you get a golden payday, you get a handshake, and you get released from your contract. Enjoy the next 30 years. This job doesn't tend to attract the most forward-thinking people.