——An attempt at dialogue film reviews
In this article, A can be assumed to be the author himself, and B is an experienced military fan.
B: "The Greyhound" is pretty good?
A: Where can I go?
B: For example, I want to tell you that the most effective anti-submarine is the strike of air power. This movie shows it vividly.
A: But I know this by just looking at popular science. Everyone is talking about the submarine as it floats up at every turn.
B: Yes, this is indeed a bug. But then I think there are several factors. For example, the submarine doesn't know that there is no depth bomb on the destroyer side. At such a close distance, if you dive, the submarine is best to maintain a underwater speed of 7-8 knots, but the destroyer has depth bombs, and the submarine at a speed of 7-8 knots will definitely be exploded if the submarine is not moving at a speed of 7-8 knots. . The casualties of underwater explosions are still much larger than those of captured or beaten after ascending. The destroyer can easily reach a speed of 30 knots, and can throw depth water bombs at the submarine in a circle. The submarine will not be able to reach the depth that the depth water bomb can't blow in a short time, so the ascent can be considered reasonable.
A: The destroyer and the submarine are so close, they know each other, the submarine’s unknown sense of horror is not shown.
B: How do you say it? The first is that the submarines at that time weren't that advanced. You see "Doomsday Lone Ship" and think that the submarines are terrifying. They are nuclear submarines with a bunch of modern detection equipment and more lethality. The second is that the destroyer heads towards the submarine. This is the correct tactic. Unless I can judge the submarine's track, it is useless to throw depth charges when it is far away.
A: The movie also showed that the decoy bomb made the destroyer misjudge, and the depth bomb did not hit the submarine.
B: Yes, the hydrophone is subject to a lot of interference. The decoy bombs are on one hand, and the propellers of other ships in the fleet are also affected. Therefore, it is only useful to throw depth charges when the submarine is directly above it. At this time, the submarine is in position. Know, of course there is no sense of horror as you said. And you noticed that when he rushed towards the submarine, the submarine was at the depth of the periscope. This is plain to say. If he rushed past at high speed, he might crash his submarine control tower, and the submarine would be useless.
A: Some people complain that the submarine's radio to the enemy is a stupid act of revealing its position.
B: Before this, radio transmission and reception have been intercepted. People are clearly provoking you. They know that the position relationship between enemy and us is basically clear. The public navigation channel is used, which is the German sneer. Moreover, the metaphors of wolves, sheep, and shepherd dogs are also very interesting. Lone wolves have a knight style, including boat emblems also have this knight style. During World War II, a large number of battles were formed in formation, that kind of single-handed knight style. Ah, that is, the U-boat still retains a few points.
A: (You are the private preference of the Germans) What about the submarines that the two of us went to a certain place more than ten years ago?
B: You are still on the road. It happens to be at the same technical and tactical level as the submarine shown in this movie. You just talked about the sense of horror. I think this movie is very real. It is much more advanced than the image we deliberately created when we cut the film and used some music to set off. What you see is a series of boats exploding and sinking, but there is no loud sound.
A: Yes, that’s great. Because the explosion sound is far away, it is very dull, very rustic, and it feels like being on the ocean.
B: You can only see the flash bomb alarm, but the ship exploded if you couldn't make it. It's actually quite scary. Silently exploding, silently sinking, and silently being swallowed by the sea, this invisible pressure is like a ghost. The movie just didn't render.
A: Yes, restraint is also an expression style, and it can’t be said to be bad. It’s just suitable for audiences with common sense. If I haven’t watched "Doomsday Lone Ship" or photographed submarines, I might not get this. Kind of ghostly pressure. And you just said so much about the logic of naval battles, and ordinary audiences don’t understand it. The movie should be more clear. Like "Furious Sea Fight", I don’t understand sailing warships at all, but I can understand what naval battles take. The logic of tactics.
B: Then if you want to find the fault, this is still a minor fault.
A: What, is there a bigger problem?
B: This ship has not released a torpedo. How can the Fletcher class have no torpedoes? There was a naval battle in Jiawu, why not use it? I saw the submarine put torpedoes.
A: In certain scenes, putting torpedoes may accidentally hurt oneself.
B: Then you can't put a torpedo at all. Torpedoes are an important anti-submarine weapon. There is a game called "World of Warships". The main thing in the destroyer ship type is mine release. Because of your destroyer’s 120mm gun, you can’t hit battleships, no one has a high firepower density against cruisers, and even if you hit aircraft carriers, you can’t reach them. You can only rush in to release mines. In "The Greyhound", the wind is high and the waves are high, and the conditions are so shaky. The Japanese destroyer, that torpedo launcher is a set of eight tubes and six tubes to give you two or three sets at once, and once you put it there is a big fan, you can't hide it at all. The name Destroyer was later translated, and it was called Lightning Strike Ship from the beginning. The destroyer in the "Grey Retriever" did a good job of evading torpedoes, all sorts of side effects, in fact, I checked the model of the U-boat, that has six bow torpedo tubes, then according to the tactical requirements, if It is really clear that if you want to sink this escort destroyer, six torpedoes should be released one after another to form a fan.
A: (Torpedoes also cost money, and a submarine has a limited amount of mine. It is not easy for Germany to walk in the Atlantic Ocean. Are you still thinking about six torpedoes every time you launch?) So what do you think of this one? Is the movie too much about the US military?
B: How do you say that, on the one hand, the film deliberately shows that the US military at the time, especially the US Navy, lacked actual combat experience. Tom Hanks’s make-up style showed that the age state should be over 45 years old, the rank of lieutenant colonel. But this kind of high-level commander, as well as a formation commander, is the first time to deal with such a navigation mission. It is conceivable that the film wanted to express that the US army had just been involved in this world war at that time, and most of the battles Officers, commanders, and even the entire U.S. military are in a state of extreme lack of experience. Was the last time the U.S. Navy fought or the U.S.-Mexico war, when did it happen?
A: This feeling is very obvious. There are two or three ships in the British Navy that do not follow the command. It is not because the British Navy sees your position as the US Navy.
B: Yes, the one painted in blue camouflage that looks particularly broken is the British destroyer, leaving the formation without authorization, and the Greyhound has nothing to do. However, on the one hand, the film admits that the U.S. military lacks experience, and on the other hand, it secretly exaggerates the capabilities of the U.S. military. This film did not show the British successes. But it stands to reason that in 1942, it was against the wolves in the Atlantic Ocean and was anti-submarine. The more experienced British army is definitely not worse than the American army. Moreover, the number of submarines destroyed by the US military is as many as possible within a reasonable range.
A: At the end, the general of the British navy asked the protagonist. This is the first time you have crossed the Atlantic Ocean. The answer for the first time means that, regardless of my inexperience, strength is strong.
B: That's why the US military was blown up, especially the Central Situation Room. This is a pioneering work of the US military. On a destroyer in 1942, there was a central situation room, which was equivalent to an on-board staff. Other navies still only performed overall command on the bridge, and there would not be such a room for information collection.
A: The US military company B-29 has such a room for military analysis.
B: How advanced is this situation room? Until our 051 class destroyer, that is, the Luda class destroyer, there was no such a configuration for this situation room. It was not until about 1996 that our second-generation destroyer had such a configuration. The role of this situation room is to avoid all experience and intuition as much as possible, and no longer rely on the commander's experience to fight with intuition, but to rely on data and information to complete the next step of planning and deployment. Why is Napoleon bull? Napoleon invented the General Staff, this department allows everyone to gather all the information, intelligence, and data, and use digital methods to interpret the war, which has the meaning of a modern military system.
A: The era of "Furious Sea" still relied on the captain to figure out the chart on his own, and then discuss with others when eating, drinking, and arguing.
B: Speaking of nautical charts, a nautical chart was actually taken out in "Greyhound" to tell you the distance and the relative angle of defense, and then calculate this account, and then do the next direction, angular velocity, and track based on the calculated data. The adjustments, the rearrangement of troops and weapons, and the adjustment of formations are simply impossible in Chinese movies. In addition, the criteria for switching and using the two equipment of sonar and hydrophone are also the most accurate in the video clips that reflect the anti-submarine warfare in the World War II era. Sonar is used for long distances and hydrophones for short distances, but these two things are very easy to be interfered in the early stage, and the radar is also particularly easy to be interfered in the early stage, so it is necessary to constantly switch. Moreover, although the protagonist portrayed in this movie is relatively plain and single, the relationship between the eyes, status, responsibilities and military ranks of each person on the entire bridge, including the situation room, is still pretty good. It can be seen. Differences in people's coping caused by age and experience.
A: The space performance of the bridge part and even the entire ship is good. The inside of the bridge is easy to be messed up and lose the sense of space, but this movie is completely absent. However, I am not very satisfied with the group portrait. I feel that the role of the characters has not been clearly stated. When you watch "Furious Sea Fighting", the era was a bit more chaotic, and the crew management system on the ship was a bit more chaotic, but who did what? I can basically understand that this movie will not work.
B: This is true. Except for the captain, the one in the situation room is the deputy captain. The chief engineer has made it clear that he has reported on the fuel and engine conditions, but the gunner doesn’t know who it is. If you open fire, you can shoot freely. The anti-submarine department should also have a special commander, perhaps the one who reported that the depth charges were removed. However, for the sake of political correctness, the job responsibilities of the black people are very clear. The sea burial scene was almost wrapped up because the corpse had been fragmented, but this political correctness is not an exaggeration.
A: Yes, generally speaking, the navy is in place and non-combustible, but there are many things that can be considered.
B: I plan to use two or even three strokes.
A: That's your best evaluation of this movie.
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