2021,7,13
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I thought that the more complete and richer plot in the book was just Iwai's deeper satire of rabid fans and their various narcissisms and fantasies, as well as the brainless remarks generated by the Internet. And ignorant and stupid junior high school students are full of meaningless and nihilistic youth. Until Hoshino, who is different from the movie, Tsuda and Kuno's story slowly peels off. I was shocked by this incredibly dark and terrifying story that I couldn't even imagine. . .
Hoshino raped several female classmates including Tsuda and coerced them to sell their bodies to adult men, while Yoko Kuno was raped to death! When my rational thinking was completely unable to accept this kind of information, I realized that, yes, Shunji Iwai wrote it like this, and he made such a thing happen in the novel! And Hoshino is just an ignorant and stupid kid who was bullied in elementary school (elementary school!), brushed by death in Okinawa, and "bloated middle-aged man" in the forum "looking at the moon, chirping me me"! Xiong Yi was coerced into holding a camera and filmed him watching the girl he liked being raped, and the entire novel was a diary from his subjective perspective.
Is this Shunji Iwai's extremely pessimistic, nihilistic perverted vent, or does he want to deeply hurt the audience and readers?
The first was "Love Letter" (he also made "Love Letter"!), then "Swallowtail Butterfly", then this, never want to see Shunji Iwai again.
2021, 7, 10
Title: Extreme venting of deep pessimism about human feelings
Communication, relationships and empathy between people are very pessimistic things. Even people with similar thoughts, ideologies, or similar origins of pain, or even experience, are likely to be unable to communicate with each other. people who already know each other), because if a person is in pain, then his mind, thinking and vision can only see his own pain, even those around him who are in the same pain can't see it, can't feel it, he can only be alone A person suffers, suffers alone, the pain will drown him, eventually it will explode, or it will destroy others if it does not destroy itself.
This is what I said, I wrote it in my diary before watching this movie.
I can see why I couldn't understand it the first time, because it was so dark and cruel that my rational thinking couldn't even take this as what really happened.
Here's my understanding: Tsuda sold her body to an adult man, and Hoshino took a video of her selling her body. How did Hoshino do it? The movie also didn't reveal, and Hoshino used these videos to coerce Tsuda to hand over most of the money given by each customer. Is Hoshino for the money? Probably not either. Did Tsuda sell his body for money? The movie doesn't reveal it, but it probably doesn't matter anymore .
Hoshino (Blue Cat) went to the "ether" Aragusuku Islands in his heart, but experienced/witnessed three "deaths". The disillusionment is then disillusioned, so this disappointment turns into a desire to destroy others.
Kuno is friendly, gentle and simple. Even if he is envied by a small group of disgusting girls and crowded out, he can sacrifice silently, dedicate himself, and arrange the music so that the chorus can go on. She has a beautiful character. And Hoshino wanted to destroy and destroy beautiful things and people just because he was disillusioned with "ether" in his heart.
Hoshino felt pain and turned into a sadist. Is there any other reason besides disillusionment with "ether" in his heart? Who knows, I don't think the reason includes "the factory at home went bankrupt" that the girl who was jealous of Kuno said, but I don't think it matters at all .
Hoshino (Blue Cat) saw that album fell out of Xiong Yi (Filiya)'s bag, and broke Lily Zhou's album, which also made him crazy, why can he do this? How did he feel when he saw that the people he knew also liked Lily Zhou? Because in his eyes, people like Xiong Yi are not worthy of being Lily Zhou's fans (why? It's not important to know, maybe Hoshino thinks only himself and "Filia" are worthy of being Lily Zhou's fans), and he even thinks he "Stained" the "ether" and felt that Xiongyi was "disgusting", maybe he no longer regarded Xiongyi as a person, but just a "thing", this kind of anger towards Xiongyi made him put him (Philea) The album itself is also seen as Xiongyi, just a "thing" that loses Lily Zhou's meaning of "ether". This is perverted.
In the end, Hoshino didn't know that Xiong Yi was Filia. Note that in the post, Hoshino (Blue Cat) first proposed to Filia to meet at the concert, but why did he give his token to Xiong Yi and said " If someone comes in contact, give this to him"? Does he not want to meet in person with the Filia who can only "empathize", "understand each other" and "think each other can understand Lily Zhou's ether" on the Internet? Think, of course he thinks, Hoshino (Blue Cat) feels very painful (but I said how much the reason for the pain is not important), he wants to express with others, empathize with this kind of feelings for Lily Zhou and his own pain, Feilia was the one he "thought" he had found who could understand each other, so he finally couldn't help but proposed to meet at the concert, but in the end he didn't even have the courage to meet! He finally chose to escape, and he may end up being overwhelmed by pessimistic thoughts, feeling that even if we meet, it would be fine and meaningless, just like the "ether" of the Okinawa island in his heart is not what he imagined at all, so he is in He wrote his contact information on the green apple, and only hoped that he could connect with "Philia" in this pitiful way, but in reality, he hid the pain very well, and pretended to be nothing. To Xiong Yi, you can only treat people around you in cruel, destructive, sadistic, and vile ways, in order to vent your unexpressed pain. His roar of helplessness alone in the field is the embodiment of this pain.
As soon as Xiong saw the true face of Qing Mao, what kind of turbulence and pain was in his heart? But he was also unable to express and vent. In the end, these feelings were destined to erupt uncontrollably, and he decided to kill the blue cat.
Tsuda is also in pain, why she betrayed her body is not clear, but again, it is not important . She didn't know, never listened to Lily Zhou (she was listening to Kinki Kids when she was on the tram with Xiong Yi), and it was only after Xiong Yi gave her that album that she started to become a fan of Lily Zhou. It was also because she heard the kite-related song on the album that finally prompted her to commit suicide.
Youth is full of so much meaninglessness and nothingness, just a kid in junior high school, ignorant, stupid, naive, don't know anything, no thoughts, no thoughts, no feelings, because a pop singer can be crazy without a brain, can "Pain without pain", "pain without pain", suicide, destruction, sadism, and destruction. (Regarding the music, although the songs of "Lily Zhou" that appeared in the movie all actually existed and were released, the purpose of these songs is to serve the movie, although these music may be really good, and there is indeed something that can exist without the movie The artistic value of music, even people who haven't seen the movie in reality may really like it, but I think these songs are just a symbol in the movie, that is to say, in the "reality" that the movie wants to express, these songs are Nothing matters, it's probably just some third-rate shoddy pop singer, but ignorant little brats are still very likely to be crazy about it) so that's why their pain "doesn't matter", because all kinds of youth, themselves There is no deep meaning. Except for Kuno, but she became the victim of a real tragedy because of her kindness, simplicity, and selflessness.
But Shunji Iwai wanted to add the darkest and cruelest stories to the meaninglessness and pessimism of youth and present them naked in front of the audience's eyes.
I think what this story reveals is the venting of extremely pessimistic feelings about people-to-people communication, relationships and empathy, even people with similar thoughts, ideologies, or similar origins of pain, or even experience, It is very likely that they cannot communicate with each other (even people who already know each other), because if a person is suffering, then his mind, thinking and vision can only see his own suffering, even if there are people who are suffering in the same way. He can only feel it, he can't feel it, he can only suffer alone, roar alone, the pain will drown him, and eventually it will explode, or it will destroy others if it destroys himself. Some people choose to commit suicide, some people choose to turn the pain of being unable to vent, unable to be understood by others, and turning the pain of empathy into the desire and impulse of destruction, destruction, and sadism, pointing to those beautiful people and things. Some people choose to surrender, surrender to the abuser, and become an accomplice who is simultaneously abused and forced to abuse others indirectly. Although he is unwilling, he can only watch the kind-hearted people be destroyed by the abuser.
Adult stories can also express such pessimistic thoughts, but Iwai Shunji chose to use ignorant children, and use dark and cruel stories in the context of youth to deeply and wantonly disperse pessimistic thoughts, compared with adults. Couldn't the story be more cruel, more pessimistic, and hurt the audience more deeply?
2021,7,15
Saw the blu-ray footage. . . .
Shunji Iwai maintained a very calm and understatement from the beginning to the end, and narrated various behind-the-scenes events without any emotion. Faced with such a movie and novel, he did not talk about those dark, cruel and painful things at all. thing. Ah, yes, that's right, it's the same tone and emotion as he tells in the "Love Letter" tidbit. Really, I can't understand what kind of mood he is in and how he does it.
A few things shocked me again. He said that in the scene where the bullying bear had a jerking off, some of the child actors didn't know what masturbation was. "I have to teach them." The scene where Yoko Kuno shaved his head (Shunji Iwai seems to have really let Ayumi Ito shave his head??!! Isn't there a bald hood?), I returned to the classroom after the shooting and shouted "ka" and found that many children were emotional, " Maybe it was hit by a shaved head," said Shunji Iwai. Then many children started crying again, "for hours."
When talking about the child who played Xiong Yi, he said that he was always absent-minded. Once I was talking to him, but he was looking at the frog. After he finished speaking, he ran after the frog. After shouting "ka" during the filming of the lunch, he kept eating it, as if he had eaten all the bento.
What I am very concerned about is how Iwai Shunji explained to these teenagers and girls when making such a movie, and communicated about the movie itself, it really felt super dangerous, those still young minds. .
For the destructiveness of people, Fromm has already done a lot of psychoanalysis:
Being aware of his separation, man needs new bonds with his fellow man; his sanity depends upon it. If he does not have a strong emotional bond with the world, he will feel utterly isolated and lost. But there are all kinds of different ways he can relate to others that we can detect. He can love others, which requires him to be independent, creative; if his free spirit does not grow, he can also relate to others in a symbiotic way. That is, to become part of others, or to make others part of oneself. In this symbiotic relationship, he desires to control others (sadistic) or to be controlled by others (masochistic).
This last solution is a vicious one (often mixed with extreme narcissism), which is the desire to destroy everyone. If there is no one other than you, you don't need to be afraid of others, and you don't need to have any relationship with them. By destroying the world, I saved myself from being crushed by it.
Man perceives himself in a strange and powerful world, and also perceives his own incompetence, and this feeling of incompetence can easily overwhelm him. If he feels that he is purely a passive thing, he will feel that he has no will of his own, no sense of his own identity. To make up for this, he must have a sense of what he can do, impress someone, make something "fail", or to use the most appropriate word in English, "effective" ability or influence). Now, we use the term to refer to an "influential" speaker or salesman, meaning that he can successfully produce results. But the original meaning is "to effect" (to effect). "Effective" means making it happen, making it happen, making it happen, and so on. An effective person is someone who has the ability to do certain things and accomplish certain things. To be able to be effective in something is to be sure that one is not incompetent, that one is a living, useful person. Being able to take effect means that you are active, not just passive; active, not just passive. In the end, it proves that it exists. This principle can be stated as follows: I am, because I effect.
The same is true for adults, who need to affirm their existence by being able to take effect. There are many different ways to achieve a sense of efficacy: making your baby look contented, making a loved one smile, making a loved one respond sexually, making the conversation partner feel interested, and engaging in work (material, intellectual, artistic). But this need can also be satisfied in other ways: to have authority over others, to feel that they are afraid of them; the murderer to observe the pained expressions of his victims; to conquer a country; to torture people or to destroy what they have built. This need for "effectiveness" can be manifested not only in human-human relationships, but also in human-animal, human-inanimate, and human-idea relationships. In a person-to-person relationship, the basic difference is the ability to generate love or to generate fear or pain.
From our research on depression and boredom, a wealth of information tells us that when a person feels ineffective, that is, feels completely incompetent (of which impotence is only a small part), he experiences extreme pain, The experience was almost intolerable to him, and to overcome it he would do almost anything: take drugs, become addicted to work, and commit cruel and murderous acts.
Erich Fromm - The Destructive Anatomy of Man
The strength of the desire to destroy seems to be proportional to the degree to which the growth of the individual's life is hindered. By this we do not mean the frustration of the individual in this or that instinct, but the obstruction of the whole of life, the spontaneity of growth and development and the expression of one's potential for feeling, emotion, and thought. Life has its own internal drive, it needs to grow, it needs to be expressed, it needs to survive. It seems that once this tendency is hindered, the energy of life breaks down and is transformed into destructive energy. In other words: the desire for life and the desire for destruction are not independent of each other, on the contrary, they are interdependent and mutually transformed. The more seriously the desire for life is blocked, the stronger the desire for destruction; the more life is realized, the less desire for destruction. Destruction is the consequence of life not being fulfilled.
Erich Fromm - "Escape from Freedom"
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