However, the fight is also divided into a heavyweight class. As the saying goes, it is not that one family does not enter the house. Without standards, there is no truth. So before the fight, let's first weigh the points and grades.
There is a wonderful phenomenon in the film industry-it is the classification of genres, that is, preconceived labeling. How to post it, please note that the conjunction I use is "as long as...".
In a movie, as long as the protagonist can fight with a sword, it is a martial arts movie. As long as the protagonist can fight with a fist, it is a kung fu movie. As long as the protagonist can fight with a gun, it is a gunfight movie. Scream movies, as long as the protagonist encounters ghosts, it is a god-ghost movie, as long as the protagonist encounters a monster, it is a Godzilla movie, collectively referred to as "horror"; as long as one of the protagonists is an alien, it is a science fiction movie. One of the protagonists is a gay movie, as long as one of the protagonists is an animal, it is a Lacey movie, collectively referred to as "vulnerable groups" (aliens are of course a disadvantaged group on earth).
Then if the protagonist knows swords, guns, fists, encounters ghosts, encounters aliens, and is still a gay raising dinosaurs, that’s called a "funny movie."
Then, when all the above conditions are not met, they will be classified into "love movies"-although the protagonist in martial arts movies seems to spend a lot of time talking about love; "social ethics movies"-even though the protagonist is in the elder brother Incest can also be done in Sla movies; there are also "literary and artistic movies"-although in Lacey movies, the protagonist can also recite poems to his own dog.
Why is love reduced to a secondary classification when love and swords fly together, and ethics is reduced to a secondary classification when ethics are the same? why! why! why!
Because everyone is more sensitive to more flavorful condiments. Love and ethics are salt, swords and gods and ghosts are pepper. As long as there is no pepper in a dish, we will have a direct reaction to how much salt is put, otherwise the first sentence we slap on the table must be "Boss! Put pepper!" Too much!"
When "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" was released, I argued with others that it should be a literary film in essence, but its genre was written as a "martial arts film". Who cares about you? "Brokeback Mountain" seems to me to be a love film ("Boys Don’t Cry" is a gay film that discusses the survival mode and psychological state of homosexuality), but it is divided into gay films. Go and bite. Who is that?
However, their standards are theirs, and I am in charge of my territory.
How to classify Ang Lee's Hulk and Norton's Hulk? Many people would think that the protagonists are the same anyway, of course they are of the same type of film, but when a supernatural human with invincible power appears in a movie, Yi may be Frankenstein or a superhero. How do you distinguish it? ? Quite simply, there is a hard indicator that can reflect the selfish nature of human beings—whether Iraq has saved the earth on which we live, and whether it has sacrificed its own consciousness for us as human beings. Yes, Yi is a hero, no, Yi is a monster.
So the result is obvious. The old version of the Hulk is a "Frankenstein movie", and the new version of the Hulk is a "tragic hero movie." That's not a type anymore, how do you compare? Of course, there is no comparison in conception, only the general structure, characterization, and the performances and scenes of the actors are compared.
s1409006 Li Ang is one of my favorite directors. In quantitative terms, if Zhang Yimou's score in my mind is -30, Chen Kaige is -10, Feng Xiaogang is 0, and Xu Ke and Wu Yusen are both +10. , Wong Kar-wai is a +30 start, then Lee Ang is a +60 start, which means that as long as his name is listed on the director column so far, I will directly give a passing score.
This kind of preference, of course, is a kind of preference. Of course, it is not for no reason, nor is it entirely based on the technical level, but on the soul level. I think directors who do not understand or cannot agree with their aesthetics will directly deduct points. Points can be added to those who can understand and feel worried. The above points are added and subtracted by these directors over the years. Director Li can only say that he is creative, stable, and does not care about breaking through himself. Can resonate with me, so the score is naturally high.
It’s not bad that he directed "The Hulk", but I think if he wants to discuss the fate of science and mankind, the contradiction between elders and younger generations, and the balance of anger and love, he should just shoot "Frankenstein" directly. At least it's easier for everyone to put aside the "hero" type of longing for the protagonist, and go directly to the center of the proposition, instead of holding a lot of popcorn and other action shots.
His Hulk is not a genre film about superhero development and ultimately saving mankind, but to put it bluntly is actually a biopic. It records the story of Hulk's birth, growth, accidental transformation, and the confusion after transformation, resisting and finally accepting himself.
In that "Hulk" I saw a very struggling and inner turbulent Ang Lee. Before "Lust Caution", I pulled off the mask and tore the carefully wrapped shell to vent some negative emotions. It is very rare. I always remember him sighing with tolerance and tolerance, and suddenly roaring out the dark side. Whether it was the Hulk’s previous battle against the evil dog, or the later Hulk’s escape battle, those scenes are full of real emotions, and it can even be said to be permeated with pleasure. Of course, the special effects cannot be compared with the current ones. The scary is not the scene. It's that the director actually confessed the not-so-good feelings.
The struggle of the person bound to death.
His Hulk was forced along the way. His genes were not his choice. The memory was not what he wanted. The accident was not planned by him. This one is not what he likes (so I understand him better), but his inner anger, even Therefore, the destructive power catalyzed is indeed his responsibility and cannot be evaded.
Basically, I ignore the question of whether human beings should rely on science to turn themselves into gods—because it’s just plain saying that human beings are always going to be extinct. Is everything we are doing now pushes or pulls in the process? After a while, we can’t judge it now. It’s just that when we have a certain ability, it’s absolutely impossible to restrain the desire to use it. All arguments for debate are just excuses for realizing desire, and all opposition voices are just afraid of such desire. Instead of this, it's better to use it frankly.
But what should we do when we are thrown out of the Garden of Eden without a choice? In this movie, which should be renamed "Hulk Biography", the protagonist goes from denial, anger, compromise, frustration to acceptance. At least this five-part psychological death is presented clearly, although I don’t like the last one. The bright ending is hidden, but the one arranged by Ang Lee in the rain of bullets, the collapse of tall buildings, the collapse of the world, the embrace of love, the forgiveness of tears, that is his warmth and my hope, so there seems to be nothing to complain about of.
The new version of Hulk, which I call the Norton version, although he is not a director, but as a lead actor and screenwriter, I believe he has more say in this movie than the director. This Hulk should reflect exactly what he has in mind. Image.
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Edward Norton, Xiao Tang said that he should not live in modern times and should not be in Hollywood. He should be "that era" <-- the background era of "The Veil", doing a cold job like a doctor or a lawyer, a slim white retro suit, not talking very much, most of the time. There is no expression, only a pair of blue eyes staring at you with full emotion. Once you hate it, you can't forgive easily, in a word, it is an old-school typical Capricorn man.
He is one of the very few Hollywood actors with a classical temperament of abstinence-we all agree.
He should be sitting in a rocking chair in front of the French window with his hair wrapped in a white bathrobe and his hair undisturbed in the night when the squally wind is raging against the bananas, holding an incomprehensible book in his hand, and when he hears the movement, he just raises his eyes and instantly When he lowered his eyes and leaned forward to kiss his smooth forehead, he would flash slightly but wouldn't really avoid it, but he would never be able to catch a flash of smile on his lips.
In fact, he is not very handsome or handsome, but has a very electric magnetic field. I like to see how he shaves his beard-but he must use an old-fashioned manual razor. If you wear modern clothes, the charm is discounted.
It is said that Ang Lee once wanted to find him to be his actor. What about Norton does Ang Lee favor? Of course it wasn't his face (because the substitute Eric Bana was really not my food<-- come to remind the children's shoes that Yi was the guy who played the cramped Henry VIII), it might be that kind of distance. People with cold appearance will make people look forward to the emotions they hold in their hearts, so that it is easy to show the five psychological levels of the Hulk.
But Norton refused at the time. The reason for the rejection can be seen in his own Hulk. Unlike Li Ang, he doesn’t care why the Hulk became like this at all. In the process of this change, he has experienced what kind of mental journey he has, what kind of recognition he has of himself. What he cares about is when you have been taken by society. When abandoning, how to overcome difficulties and continue to play the role of a good hero.
So his movie is to return, escape, and then return to this structure. Which one is more perfect than Ang Lee's? Because one is a biographical film and the other is a heroic film, so in terms of their own genre, they are very complete.
I don’t want to say that Norton has projected "personal heroism" romance on the Hulk in his mind, because the Hulk is not like Superman, Batman, and Spiderman. PaintedVeil will see his own picture in the newspaper the next day. On the front page, I heard the praises of them in the news, mixed in the crowd and enjoyed the secret "different" sense of luxury.
But it is true that his Hulk does not have anti-social tendencies. He ran away and wanted to heal himself. It was not out of the incoordination between self and social cognition like Li Ang’s Hulk, but he didn’t want the military to use his genes to make it. Biochemical weapons harm the world. He went back and risked his transformation not because he couldn't control the negative emotions in his heart, but because he sacrificed himself to save the world.
Such a Hulk is actually an orthodox hero with flaws. Of course, in my opinion, its charm value is not as good as an anti-hero who has been driven to a dead end (see the characters in the movies and novels I like, in Xiao Tang's words, "I don't like good people").
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As for the actor part, Eric Bana was still a grass at the time. Even though his acting skills are still 2266 now, he had to take the route of widening and widening. At that time, one can imagine how a model has been changed, and many psychological dramas were abandoned by him. Zhang his face. It can be said that Norton rejected Ang Lee at the time, which I deeply regret. Because in Norton's own Hulk, since there is no confusion period (from the beginning, it is almost like a sequel to Lee's version), there is no denial of himself, and a very positive attitude towards life is shown from beginning to end, so Norton has nothing too much. In the space of big challenges, I would rather watch him discharge in a literary film.
As for the heroine, Jennifer Connelly and Liv Tyler look like I like, but as far as acting is concerned, it can be said that the points I added to the exciting fighting scenes of the new version of the Hulk are deducted on Tyler alone (not at all exaggerate).
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the heroine is the daughter of the general, a doctor of biology, Hulk's work partner, girlfriend and guardian of the soul, what kind of female image will emerge in my heart-tough, mature, strong and brave. Connelly's facial features are very strong, tall and straight, and he speaks clearly, and his movements are not muddled. It is also very convincing for Yi to play a female officer (somewhat similar to Demi Moore's temperament). A woman with such a strong feeling will not feel abrupt when she finally jumps from the helicopter and hugs a monster like Hulk.
Tyler's words (sighs), if you say that you are not too young, she is a mature woman, why is she still waiting for her mother to feed her? And the most terrible thing is that this girl's figure is a bit out of shape (Xiao Tang and I were surprised that she was so fat).
Throughout the whole movie, I heard her uttering her lines without stress, as if she was very reluctant to Dantian (wow, she must not have been trained in stage play), I was crazy, and I really wanted to give her a hard time (the most impression) Profound is a scene of a highway escape. She looked behind and said, "What happened?" She was completely silent. Has she ever taken a line class? No, it should be said that she hasn't even learned simple reading.) .
Then her face, which was originally a literary heroine, still showed a young girl's expression all day long. Since we rarely see our professional doctors show this kind of face, I couldn't help but secretly ask Xiao Tang in the middle. "Are your professional doctors like this?", she almost didn't shake her head (actually, not long after Tyler just appeared on the stage, she whispered beside my ear, "How can there be so many handsome men and beauties in biology doctors") .
Norton is with her like an uncle with a niece (sighs). It should be a love between adults and a close relationship. This makes it seem like older boys and girls play a house (of course, this is because of the role background It’s okay if it’s simply regarded as a modifiable killer.) The scene where they almost got into bed should have been romantic, but Xiao Tang and I both thought it was the heroine who was acting like a baby and eating tofu (speechless). I really don't love this type of pseudo-loli.
Poor Norton, U is not suitable for loli. If you want to match, you just need to match it with a real one. This fake is really inappropriate. It corrupts your temperament, I said. Because this woman has a little daughter's attitude from beginning to end, I want to say that forbearance is good, and it's not a PL vase. As a result, she crawled out softly and tenderly on the bones of the final battle, still calling "Stop!" without dantian and accent, and Hulk really stopped. I'm okay, Xiao Tang next to him almost didn't jump up and yell at him. Just put the vase properly, running out to ruin the whole momentum (if the heroine is very strong, it won't be so annoying).
Speaking of the picture, in fact, Ang Lee’s scenes of the war are more to my liking. Because it's relatively open, Norton's scene is a bit like Godzilla (or King Kong?) But I don't like the four-frame comic-style illustration arranged by Ang Lee. The house should have an experience, a good comic. The first important point is that the layout is beautiful. What is called a beautiful layout is not to strain the eyes of our readers, but also to facilitate our "brain supplement" (referred to as "brain supplement"), that is, a few lines, add some onomatopoeia, we just Can automatically complete the battle scene in the brain. But it was originally a moving picture. If you put it together, it’s a bit too much information, and it’s tired to your eyes and brain. If you want to have the feeling of comics, you should simply stop the picture, or frame by frame. Let's make it up by ourselves.
The Norton version of the Hulk ms is not ugly enough, especially compared to the last boss. Even if it wasn't an external manifestation of the dark side of psychology, Hulk should be a little more disgusting.
In terms of the overall atmosphere, the Norton version of Hulk is a bit more cheerful and relaxed.
Ang Lee sets Hulk’s transformation activation mechanism to "anger", which is a negative emotion, on a psychological level. Every time an attack occurs, it is a manifestation of the dark side of the psychology, and will do this when facing himself later. And pain <-- I, a person who has received psychological counseling to learn to "control anger", absolutely feel the same way. So the whole movie is depressed and tangled, just a social movie with popular comic characters.
And since Norton didn't mean to be anti-social, he set it to "rapid heartbeat", which is a reaction, on a physiological level, so you can play with "I can't be too excited". It's a hero movie that is a little darker (because it's darker than Tim Burton's Batman). Moreover, he explained Hulk's panties issue very "attentively and considerately" to the audience-in fact, people who haven't read this comic will not feel this kind of thoughtfulness, but I directly understand that every time Hulk transforms, it is light. It’s just considering the issue of distribution, so I added a pair of torn underwear on the screen.<--This is also a kind of "brain supplement". Some things don't need to be explained so clearly to be interesting.
Another interesting detail is that the "Norton Antivirus" scene (must be deliberate) appeared in the movie. Everyone thinks Lao Xi's tricks are fun, but this is still creative.
In addition to the sudden appearance of IronMan at the end (I joked that maybe the sequel is IronMan vs. The Hulk), as a superhero movie, this Hulk is definitely qualified, but it is not as good as SuperMan and SpiderMan in terms of plot setting. BatMan, these old-brand Mans, are just so protruding and stubborn, and the ultimate boss is a bit brain-dead (I can’t accept this type of fighting freak lacking a background, and why I want to insist that people were born in Russia).
If you put aside the different genres and just use the simple standard of "good-looking" (that is, when I watch it, I feel turbulent, and I will recall some scene lines or pictures after reading it), then I think the Li An version is more beautiful. Just sauce.
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