Ken:
And at the same time, at the same time as trying to lead a good life, I have to reconcile that with the fact that with the fact that, yes, I have killed people. Not many people. And most of them were not very nice people. Apart from one person.
Ray:
Who was that?
Ken:
This bloke Danny Aliband's brother. He was just trying to protect his brother. Like you or I would. He was just a lollipop man. But he came at me with a bottle. What are you gonna do? I shot him down.
Ray:
Hmm. In my book, though, someone comes at you with a bottle, I'm sorry, that is a deadly weapon, he's gotta take the consequences.
Ken:
I know that in my heart, but I also know he was trying to protect his brother, you know?
Ray:
I know, but a bottle, that can kill ya. That's a case of "It's you or him". If he'd come at you with his bare hands, that'd be different. That wouldn't have been fair.
Ken:
But technically, someone's bare hands, they can kill you too. They can be deadly weapons too. What if he knew Karate, say?
Ray:
You said he was a lollipop man.
Ken:
He WAS a lollipopman.
Ray:
What a lollipop man doing, knowing fucking Karate?
Ken:
I'm just saying...
Ray:
How old was he?
Ken:
About fifty.
Ray:
What's a fifty year old lollipop man doing, knowing fucking Karate? What was he, a Chinese lollipop man?
Ken:
Course not.
Ray:
Well then.