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"nuns Ida" (Ida choice)
answers fans made of the following Question
1 Why should the movie be presented in black and white?
2 The disproportionate interpretation of the composition of the picture
3 Full analysis of a large number of lens language, such as: horse-drawn car
4 Screenwriting homework: deep interpretation of alcohol and sex, analogy analysis between Ada and Aunt
5 Opening credits of nun sculpture, Ada in the trail The language of the walking camera is fully resolved
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Oscar Awards (2015; 87th) Winners: 1
Award · Oscar Award-Best Foreign Language Film
European Film Award (2014; 27th) Winners: 6
Winners
Audience Award · European Film Award-Best Film
European Film Award -Best Director
European Film Award-Best Photographic
European Film Award-Best Screenplay
Woman: The story of this movie is good, I understand it, but tell me quickly, why use black and white films?
Let’s find the theme first, and analyze the plot and characters with me
first : Let’s talk about this aunt, you see, she is also a Jewish female judge, but in fact she has no faith, has experienced wars, various political struggles in the country, and chaotic private life. , But know how to have fun in time. My aunt doesn't seem to have any temptations for food, except for alcohol.
Female; I feel that her current life is actually not what she really wants, and she is also very contradictory.
Do you think, in her heart, does she really hope that Ida will choose her own path? You see, in the end she overdrafted her life. From the picture, it can be seen that she chose to commit suicide very decisively and had no love.
We have to understand from the picture how disgusted auntie is for the judge’s work. Let’s take a look at the case she has handled and judge a lawn mower...It is conceivable that there are so many horrifying cases that have been handed over to this person before. A woman, in fact, is to let her be the executioner of the country...
Look at Ada, her beautiful long hair, how charming! Is the part that attracts men always covered by a headscarf, so even if it is opened once, this is the secular definition. In the eyes of ordinary people, life is complete.
Have you seen the sea? Let's have a concert... and then, but so! For men, it is Ada’s biggest temptation and aunt’s wish. Aunt always regrets Ada. Sometimes she looks at Ada and her heart os: You see, a girl with such a dignified logo, who grows up so big, has never tasted it. Forbidden fruit, what a pity...
Female: How do you know?
Everyone pay attention to some subtexts, what the aunt thinks is basically the question that the audience considers, because the director's screen prompts it!
Let’s talk about Ada. She has been growing up in a monastery, and she has been deeply rooted in many things, including temperament and habits... This temptation in the world, it is actually difficult to change Ada. There is one thing, that is, the only wish for men. In the end, I would really turn on the headscarf for myself once and meditate alone at night. It was also the time when Ada was suffering.
Female: I asked a question. When my aunt and Ada said goodbye, it was very strange. I could see that Ada was suddenly angry and left without looking back... It
was a very warm goodbye. When the aunt mentioned a man, it was actually the two of them. The difference is on this point. According to our analysis, although the aunt is not proper and the relationship between men and women is more prominent, she actually didn't find happiness in men. Ada should have seen it too. In the last few days, smoking and drinking, sex, and everything she can do, aunt Isn't it these three things too!
Woman: Well, the secular life really doesn't have much temptation for Ada.
Let me interpret some classic lens language for everyone
Horse-drawn cars actually have two meanings, one is backwards, but we have to find the metaphor here based on the plot, but we need to think more deeply. When we look carefully, the direction of the front of the car is opposite to the head of the horse.
Woman: Yes, you are really careful, how do you interpret it?
It shows that the carriage and the car are also tearing and gambling: history vs. now, society, including the chaotic ideology of people, and the female judges with regard to their own work, are all out of this contradiction and struggle...
Oh, I see! The horse-drawn car is both a retrogression and a game.
The key is to make the audience think, are we now some kind of retrogression?
From Ada's point of view, tracing the history of Chen Guzi's rotten sesame seeds is also a retrogression. She doesn't care much about the grievances and grievances of her ancestors in the past. She chooses to forgive.
We see, what she saw in the past few days when she left the monastery, first of all, it was her aunt. In Ada's heart, she hated her aunt's life and was debauched. And after Ada went to her hometown in the countryside, she found that the village girl was vulgar and distrustful of people. You see, she wanted to use the nun and finally kill her relatives, but later eagerly wanted to make an oath with the nun for the house. Both of them have this virtue. , These people fancy the nuns' purity and kindness, so they use their brains... These are all human nature, petty citizens, and vulgar things!
So Ada avoided her aunt many times, because she really didn't want to see those worldly, ugly human natures, and would rather be alone and look for the excitement of the outside world, but can she really find it?
Slowly discovering that Ada's life is indeed incompatible with society, plus her aunt, Ada looks down on a lot, and her eyes are full of filthy souls.
Note that it is not that Ida is cold, but that society is disappointing!
Everyone pay attention. What music was played when my aunt died? And what tunes did comrades use to send their aunts to the funeral? These have to be compared to see the doorway!
Oh, I see! The music she chose for herself when her aunt committed suicide was what she wanted in her heart.
right! Comparing the two pieces of music, the subtext comes out: Keep talking, dear comrade, do you really know what your comrade likes?
Female: Well, there are fake and empty things in the system. No wonder my aunt dislikes these things. In fact, she is tired of all this early.
It is necessary to understand the language of the lens, and often
see her aunt eating by contrast. She sprinkles salt and sugar. It can be seen that she has a heavy taste. Why? It's like chewing wax! Even if you give her a big meal, she is already tired of it. One is that she is old, but it mainly reflects her boredom and dissatisfaction with life. It is really boring and hard to swallow without any condiments!
And Ada eats in the church, you see, while eating while stealing pleasure, we can use it as a comparison, Ada should have tasted the taste of life at this time.
Female: I have a doubt. Regarding the composition of the film, it completely breaks the traditional photographic aesthetic framework, and the protagonist who is also far away from the main body is puzzling. This is also a problem that all fans are concerned about, because it is too obvious!
Then I will answer this question. The
lens: There is always a feeling of a large space above, always reminded, the smallness of people, our voices, talk, God will hear, and the use of scenes including stairs, and there is more Artistic analysis...
can you experience the nun going down to the mortal world?
And so on, the composition shows this point, and there must be enough space above to reflect these meanings!
Woman: Wow! Your interpretation is too touchy, the color composition is fully explained!
I never make those unclear explanations and definitions. They are all fooling people. If I really don’t understand, I would rather not say it. Since I raise a question, I have to explain it clearly to everyone.
Female: Yes, yes, I also feel that after a lot of things are said, they probably don't understand it themselves, haha! I don’t understand those bird words...
Auntie is lying on the bed, and Ada seems to be praying to her facing the corpse. This picture is funny, the subtext: It means that two people with different personalities are not harmonious when living together, so the picture is funny. Hey, it also hinted at the tragedy of my aunt in the future.
Looking at the camera again, the close-up of the nun's breasts, the bulging breasts, pay attention to some subtext: This is not a crime, it is development, it is instinct.
We must pay attention to these tips from the director, and we must be particular about choosing what to shoot or not.
Everyone pays attention to some details and actions, and thinks with questions. We watched the scene of digging a grave. Since the close-up of the dust is stained on the clothes, why not shake it off? Don’t nuns always like to be clean?
Female: How to interpret?
There is no sense of uncleanness at this time, just like snow flakes. It is the soil where parents are buried, and there is love in it. How can it be dirty?
Ida loved and was satisfied. Life is a different choice. From the south to the north, the nuns lead a poor life and are completely different from the world.
Female; what does it mean and how to interpret the plot statue?
The typical lens language, this is the choice of Ada and the nuns, their task is to let God be in his own place!
Oh, I see!
Woman: By the way, quickly explain why this movie was made in black and white?
The masters are not making black-and-white films for gimmicks. Some people may think that black-and-white films are literary and artistic. That's not grandstanding!
Female: The film uses black and white shots, and always gives the audience a sense of elegance and tranquility, the church!
This is just one reason. Isn't that all the movies involving churches going to do this?
Female: But black and white films are indeed very literary!
The truths you said are not enough to convince people, the masters are not making black and white films for some gimmick!
The key is to combine the theme to understand why the medicine adopts this approach.
First of all, the director should explain: Ida walked out of the monastery, but found that the world in his eyes was far less colorful, but it was so! Is this content for all plots?
You see, even stained glass should be presented in black and white colors, because in Ada's eyes, in Ada's heart, this world is nothing but such, this human nature is nothing but such, can't see the world of goodness and reality, can it be called color? This is the real heart of Ada, who can see through the world...
Female: I remember that the glass window was mentioned in the dialogue.
In fact, both the director and the script will hint at these content in the dialogue, prompting the audience to find the answer.
So we must understand that the film is black and white. Ida went there for a few days and saw the outside world. Can such a world seduce her? Look at these people in front of them. They are tired of themselves, and these Villagers, can she feel warm and kind?
She wants to be such a person, wants to live such a life? Full of sins of secular and human nature. From pre-war to post-war, how much progress has human nature really made? Is your society really progressing?
Think about it, it's also because the music awakens some of her thoughts in the middle of the night. This should be driven by nature. After all, girls have dreams, and girls will cherish spring. Is this a sin? This is human nature! Ada finally faced and realized these ideas, found that it was only so, and finally made the final choice!
I also want to talk about the homework of the screenwriter. Everyone thinks about why we need to introduce the aunt and alcohol in a big way, including the plots of her drunk driving and so on. Look, even Ida will have to get drunk once. Do you just want to portray the aunt as a drunk, and then think about what it has to do with sex?
Woman: Ha, it is true, but I haven't considered it in depth!
I focus on this scene: My aunt is drinking with a fat man and asked, let me translate: Is there a car? Sleep with you at night, but in no hurry, let's drink first. What does this mean, choice! Because for the aunt, the temptation of sex is far less than that of alcohol. Let's talk about what alcohol is. It has been cultivated for many years, and it is an addiction! And what sex is, just instinctively vent, one-night stand. The two are different. The life experience and nature that have been cultivated over the years have forged a person. Just like alcohol addiction, these things are far greater than the temptation of one-night stands. The key is to look at the connection between these contents and Ada. !
The director actually wanted to say that Ada is just like that! After so many years of devotional self-cultivation in the monastery, Ada has already had her own worldview and ideological values, which cannot be changed. Just like wine, she cannot get rid of the complex. As for sex, after Ida's one-night stand, she also dumped that man, right?
Woman: Wow! No wonder the director asked Ada to drink at the end. It was so amazing, it turned out to be an analogy. The doorway here is so deep, it deserves to be a master-level script, an Oscar-level one!
So you now know why you have to do so much in the plots of Aunt Drinking. This is the key and highlight plot, but if you can't find the theme, you will not be able to see these! All my aunt’s previous episodes of alcoholism and drinking and driving, especially in this scene, were used as a theme.
Female: I didn’t expect this scene to be just two minutes, but it contains such a rich philosophy.
So look, the display of alcohol and sex, Through the analogy between aunt and Ada, the story organically combines all these plots and elements, and they are all natural and integrated. You can't see the relationship here, you definitely can't dig out these highlights, and you can't connect with other directors, you know?
Why let you learn the four-dimensional one-piece pull-sheet analysis method? See how important it is! It is not only for writing film reviews for watching movies, but also for directing and screenwriting. It is the theoretical basis of movies. How many of you have paid attention to it?
Female: Sins, sins, this time I understand!
What is a pull film, and how to read a master script, do you understand now? To shape characters, choose which plots to choose, which are important, which are to be cut off, how is the writing flying, and how is the highlight is art... These are not about script structure, genre film, beginning, succession, rhythm, composition... …I can tell you the mess!
Woman: Yes, I don't think that level can teach screenwriters. But some people think that they can understand your interpretation, so they think the content is very low...
Then I have nothing to do, this is jian, and it belongs to human nature! Haha
Girl: There is also a title for this film, Ida’s choice, I think this translation is also very good.
That's right! In fact, I want to say that the most important thing in
this film is to choose two characters. Then the whole story of this film is written around, that is, the choice. Then the audience must first understand Ada's choice. This is where the film can succeed. After a long time, you don't understand why Ida chose to be a nun in this way. Do you think that watching movies like this is turning the cart before the horse?
Now I understand more why it is a black and white film, because in the eyes of this nun, there are really not many colored things in the outside world. Don't look at it, it must be black and white!
Woman: Yes, in fact, let's talk about aunt, she has long been tired and exhausted of life, always showing a kind of sickness!
The executioner of the country, who do you think is really willing to be that kind of superwoman? Aunt must know what she wants in her heart! She will also understand Ada's choice!
Woman: So you mean that the film is also exposing the current situation in Poland, and the director vents its dissatisfaction?
It was originally! We have to read these from the screen before you can understand this movie!
Therefore, when we analyze the film from all aspects and summarize the plot, we find that the director always hints at a lot of things. He has never lost his subjective thinking and propaganda. This is also what I said. The film does not care about the audience’s choice. The film just lets the audience. Thinking and letting them understand the choice of the protagonist has achieved the director's goal of passing on the thoughts!
Female; that's why you always say that movies are to convey ideas and audiences are thinking about problems.
right! What the audience sees is always just the choice of the director, the Hamlet in the director's heart!
Female: How to interpret the language of the camera at the end of the film?
Attention everyone: Ada walked quietly, and one or two cars passed by her in the opposite direction...
This is a philosophical thinking: the road of life, some walking, some driving, who can reach the end faster , And what is the end? Should life be tasted and contemplated, or overdraft the farce of life?
The road of life should still be measured with your legs, savor carefully, don't be anxious, calm down and listen to the answer from heaven.
Ada and the nuns made the best choice they thought, and as ordinary people, occasionally visiting the place closest to God and listening to the voice of God is also a good choice!
Female: This artistic conception is so beautiful, it can indeed arouse some philosophical thinking.
I always emphasize that the beginning and the end of the film must be paid attention to! You have to make a good artistic interpretation to understand the movie, because the master directors will show their talents in these most important places and remind the theme.
Nebras intensified the photo,
so I hope that through my interpretation, let the audience understand and see what other masters do in art, and which Oscar is not well-deserved?
Why do "The Great Artist", "Ada's Choice" and "Nebraska" use black and white to tell, we have to speak the truth before we can understand the movie! The masters are not making black-and-white films because of gimmicks. Some people may think that black-and-white films are literary and artistic, and I can only hehe...
Female: Okay, then tell me about these films quickly! I really want to know these answers... The
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