"Cry" director Luo Hongzhen and film critic Li Dongzhen's post-screening conversation

Lourdes 2021-12-29 08:01:33

※ This article involves spoilers ※

May 10, 2016
MEGABOX Dongdaemun Hall M

Q-Li Dongzhen
A-Luo Hongzhen


Q: First of all, we must ask the director, because the movie will be released tomorrow, the day before the release, what the director thinks most is What?

A: I am very nervous. This nervousness is because the nature of the things I filmed this time is somewhat different from the works I presented to the audience before. Then I am not sure if any director has already filmed the things I filmed before. So tonight should be very stressful. I am really curious to ask this question. If this movie is not bad, is there any way to let me know? (Audience applauds and applauds) Ah~ Thank you.

Q: Everyone should take out the paper money from the wallet and wave it. Because there was a media preview last Tuesday, and there will be GV (audience meetings) from Friday to today, and there will be many fellow directors attending the VIP preview yesterday, so I guess there will be Many people ask the director a lot of questions. What has been the most asked question in the past few days?

A: They are all related to the second half of the movie, but if they have any questions after watching the movie, they don't ask me directly.

Q: Because I was afraid I was wrong.

A: They will ask some other things.

Q: I also hosted an audience meeting last week. There were actors there. The audience was very active in the questioning session that day. I guess it should be the same today. This movie is the movie I have watched the most in recent years. I believe you must be very proud to have made such a movie. It is estimated that you will also feel like "you are all dead" and made such a movie. Outstanding work, what is the point that the director is most satisfied with in his work? (The critics asked what they were satisfied with)

A: It should be the post-production of the film. At that time, I filmed "Yellow Sea" for 11 months. I really suffered a lot, but the post-production only took 1 month and 10 days. After the movie was released, I still couldn't get past this hurdle. , So after the release, the later part was reworked, about 3 months, so there was another version of "Yellow Sea". For the next 3 years, I was not angry with others, I was angry with myself, so I couldn't sleep well for about 3 years, and others might not be able to imagine how regretful I was. I couldn’t sleep soundly until I entered the shooting schedule of "The Cry", so this time I made up my mind to change the schedule before the film is ready. Even so, the time is still not enough, so I feel inadequate in this regard. . (But the director’s answer seems to be regrettable)

Q: Next, I want to ask some questions related to the content of the movie. Then I will ask them in turn according to the characters. Played by Village Falcon) Does coming to Gokseong have anything to do with Wuming?

A: I don't think so.

Q: Do you think there is no?

A: Yes.

Q: So the next question is the relationship between Nikko (played by Huang Zhengmin) and the Japanese played by Kunimura Hayabusa. Has Nikko been with the Japanese from the beginning? Or did they come together with the Japanese because of some kind of opportunity?

A: My setting is the former.

Q: If they were in a group, who did the sharp sword point to when the sun was exorcizing demon?

A: In order to allow the audience to feel the different directions of the sword at that moment based on their different views on each character, it can be considered as pointing towards Takajin or the Japanese. I have been thinking about all the audience here, when they heard the rumor about the Japanese, the moment they heard the first relevant line, what percentage of the audience would think "that Japanese should be a good person"? How many viewers can consider whether the Japanese are good or bad when they exorcise? But during the actual screening, I saw that everyone was just watching the movie with no idea... It felt like it was different from what I expected, although I was not sure whether my observation was accurate... In short, the editing of the movie was chosen. This is the way the audience thinks that the sword can point to either side.

Q: But during the exorcism, the movie did not show the scene of Qian Yuxi being punished. Instead, it always showed the Japanese in pain. When the exorcism was interrupted, the Japanese seemed to come back to life. Did the director deliberately guide him? Does the audience think that the sword of exorcism is aimed at the Japanese?

A: Yes. Ah... yes.

Q: Isn't this deceiving the audience? If the director wants the audience to think that the object of exorcism may also be Qian Uxi, why doesn't the movie show Qian Uxi's reaction...

A: It's not Qian Uxi, it's Hyojin.

Q: So why do Japanese people feel good and suddenly suffer?

A: This is what I'm struggling with. There will be many people in the audience who are suspicious of the Japanese. He is looking at Park Chun Pei’s photos and has some thoughts. The audience will be curious about what he is thinking and what his purpose is. The Japanese will say "Anyway, I said At the moment when you would not believe the line, I originally guessed that many audiences would recognize the true face of this character. Will the exorcism scenes that follow will make these audiences doubtful, of course I also want to make these audiences doubtful. the purpose. Because the movie Exorcism that morning showed the daily life of this Japanese for no reason, an ordinary man who came to a foreign land to buy chickens from Huangshizheng (a chicken seller in a guest market), and he didn’t speak the language. I originally borrowed this. The scene suggested to the audience that the Japanese wanted to save him when they looked at Park Chun Bae’s photos, so the exorcism scene was originally designed to make the audience think that the object of the exorcism was Hyojin, but I read a lot of comments. , I found that everyone didn’t have any thoughts when they watched it...

Q: Actually, the director also buried a lot of foreshadowing in the movie. For example, when Huang Zhengmin changed his clothes, we saw him wearing garter (traditional Japanese underwear). I personally think that a very important role in the movie, but one that is rarely mentioned is the assistant priest. The assistant priest is the only character in the movie who can directly talk to the Japanese in Japanese. The reason why this movie looks so terrible Part of it is because of supernatural phenomena, but part of it is because the movie is too real. Although there is a scene in the movie that is very real, it uses the expression of mythology, such as a cave scene. Why should the cave part choose a way of expression as if it happened in another time and space, like a myth?

A: In the film planning stage, I didn't want to use a single line to tell this story, but if there are too many lines, it will be difficult to put them together in the end. The stigmata is shown in the movie, but this is not the most important thing for the audience, so the stigmata did not play an important role in the 2 hours and 10 minutes before the movie. I really want to show something about Christianity and the Bible in the movie. Some aspects, but in fact, what I want to tell more is the story about the victim. The important thing is the reason why the victim is a victim. What I want to understand is not that the victim was victimized because the perpetrator did something for a certain reason in a certain psychological state and caused the victim to be victimized, but why it was the victim who was victimized? But this is unknowable, which shocked me very much. This question even made me think about the reason for human existence. There are obvious reasons for the existence of people, but there is no reason for the disappearance of existence, which makes me very puzzled. If there is no clear reason for disappearance, is there a reason for existence? I think that the existence of human beings and the existence of gods are very closely related, so I want to ask God, for example, ah God, your good and evil are being questioned, and the reason for your existence is being questioned, I think You should stand up to prove your existence and explain these events. I think Cheon Woo Hee's role is such a person who asks questions. So the questions that the audience discusses with their friends after watching the movie, or the questions sent to me through the Internet, I think all these questions are essentially the same as the questions the movie wants to ask the heavenly person. If someone thinks this movie is boring and wants to scold me, I would not think that your finger is directed at me. This movie is a siege war. It is a movie in which a family has been doing all they can to defend against foreign attacks for two hours. Do you want to open the door? You are an enemy or a friend. In short, it is a defender and an attacker. In the duel, the defender is in the light, and the attacker who wants to break in is in the dark. I don't know who to believe in the chaos of the movie. The scene of the cave is separated from the chaos of the outside world, and at the same time brings out the line of stigmata. In the cave, the Japanese stared with red eyes and recited the Gospel of Luke to the assistant priest. At this time, I wanted to ask the audience whether they would choose to believe or question the scene before them? All kinds of trust and doubt are intertwined to make the movie as complicated as it is now. This movie is a genre film in order to bring a better visual experience to the audience. Although very detailed editing and finishing are arranged, the answer to the movie is still very good. Hard to find.

Q: The question about the identity of the Japanese in the movie was directly raised twice, once by Zhong Jiu (played by Guo Duyuan), and once by the assistant priest. Why did the Japanese confess their identity to the assistant priest, but did not. Tell Zhong Jiu before?

A: Because I am worried that I will confess my identity just in the middle of the movie, so the problem will become more serious, and I am afraid that the audience will be discouraged after watching it.

Q: Anything else? Is this the whole reason?

A: It doesn't have any special meaning, mainly because of these. When he said, "You won't believe me anyway," I believe that the keen audience has already seen whether he is kind or malicious, which accounts for about 20% of the audience. The tone of Kunimura Hayabusa's line sounds like "I'm here to save you" rather than "I want to turn your village into hell."

Q: Why didn't Zhong Jiu go to the cave last but the assistant priest?

A: Because the assistant priest goes to the cave not to save anyone, but to make the scene of the cave and the movie look related. This design is to maximize the pleasure of the genre film. Zhong Jiu has not seen the same scene in the cave. It is also for the pleasure of genre films. Because when I made a movie, I valued the three situations where the protagonist did not know but the audience knew, the protagonist and the audience knew at the same time, and the protagonist knew but the audience did not know these three situations. I think the protagonist does not know but the audience knows this setting is set in this movie. Here can better reflect the entanglement between Zhong Jiu and Wuming.

Q: If Zhong Jiu is not the assistant priest who goes to the cave last, would the Japanese react differently?

A: Then the part of the stigmata will not appear. When determining the subject matter of a movie, I think about Occult the most. Looking back at the history of film, a certain type of film flourishes and declines, and there will always be some ups and downs. Why hasn't Occult been revived? As an Asian, as a Korean, I have an understanding of religious concepts. Based on this understanding, whether I can resurrect Occult or a similar movie genre if I make a movie based on this understanding, I have such expectations in my heart, "The Omen" and " The social environment when "Exorcist" was released was very similar to the current economic environment and social atmosphere in South Korea. The religious elements in the film and the emergence of Korean folk beliefs are also based on these considerations. The reason why the story takes place in Gucheng is also because of this. In the interviews I have received so far, people have asked a lot of questions about actors, but I think it is the background of the characters that is more important than the characters in the film. For me, it is the most suitable place to present Korean folk beliefs. Because of the unpredictable natural scene in Gucheng, this natural phenomenon caused the accumulation of changes in the atmosphere of the film. At this time, Qian Yuxi appeared on the stage. Even if she did nothing, the audience would think that she was in control of the atmosphere of the film. Qian Yu Hee is of course a very outstanding actor, but how to express this role has a powerful force is the most brainstorming part for me and the director of photography. I'm not asking questions and answers, I just want to say that the intention of arranging Zhong Jiu and Wuming to face off on the road is very simple.

Q: In the end, the audience finally understood which one was good and which was evil. There was another detail in the movie. They were three unknown objects. One was a hairpin that fell on the floor, one was Park Chunpei's jacket, and the other was worn before. The sweaters on the deceased, why did these three things appear in Wuming? What does it mean to Wuming?

A: The moment Zhong Jiu was about to turn around and go home, Wuming, who was standing about 15 meters away, suddenly grabbed Zhong Jiu's hand. The temperature difference between the two hands can be seen in the screen, and the sound effect is also very impressive. Feeling cold, I think the clock and the audience will start to doubt the nameless for a long time, and the hairpins, jackets and sweaters are all confirmations of this suspicion. But why did the hairpin fall on the ground instead of being worn on the head, because it is too conspicuous to wear the hairpin on the actor's head. Although the script says that the actor wears a hairpin on his head, the actor has never worn it during filming. , Suddenly it looks abrupt when you wear it, so just set it to fall to the ground.

Q: This is probably the difference between critics and creators. I am asking questions using why, and the director usually answers how. This is very interesting. That's all for my question. Next, I invite the audience to ask questions.

Audience: This movie reminds me of movies like "The Exorcist" and "Angel Heart". I would like to ask you what was the opportunity for making this movie?

A: This question is very similar to the question I answered just now for more than 20 minutes...

Q: The historical part of the film genre mentioned by the director just now should be able to answer your question. Let's ask other audiences to ask questions.

Audience: I am very impressed by Jin Huanxi (played by Xiaojin). Performances such as swearing and eating and gorging may be difficult for children to understand. How do you give specific guidance?

A: I always talk to my child's mother. I hope that the child will not read the script, but let the mother tell her about the plot. For example, when we arrive at the shooting site today, I will first ask the child what you think we are going to shoot today, and then I will ask the mother how you explained to the child, then I will probably understand how to guide the child to shoot today .

Q: It is said that the mother of the child is a Christian?

A: Yes, so is the child...they are still praying together.

Q: It is said that the scenes in the movie are shot while praying.

Audience: Zhong Jiu asked Wuming why this happened to my child. Wuming replied that it was because of the father's fault. What is the director's intention?

A: At the stage of creating a movie, when considering the issue of existence and disappearance, I felt a lot of limitations. I didn’t know how to write it down. I also read a lot of books because it’s the part related to God. I felt that it was impossible to do it on my own, so I visited many priests and asked them a lot of questions. In order to get as many answers as possible, I went to many places such as Nepal and Japan. What I can feel in my answer is that the existing religions are really perfect. Although the world is changing every day, I feel that the world is really too perfect after listening to the answers given to me by these clergy. Later, some people were killed in Iraq. Some people asked "Why did he die?" Some people answered that, "Don't let go where you go, don't let what you do, let innocent people become murderers." "It was really creepy. I wanted to express this feeling in the movie, so Wuming said something similar.

Audience: I am curious about the meaning of the final scenes and the final lines of the movie?

A: Before Nikko appeared in the movie, there was a scene that was deleted. It was Nikko who saw Xiaozhen waving a knife and asked her "Why are you doing this?" The child cried and said, "I don't know what's wrong with me. It seems to be crazy. Please help me.” The clock hugged the child for a long time and said the same thing as the end of the movie. It is appropriate for this sentence to appear here, but the scene disappeared and was omitted, so just like the teacher (referring to The young audience who asked the question just now) said the last line that seemed abrupt. This is the problem caused by the deletion, and the teacher pointed it out very correctly.

Audience: Why did Nikko choose to be with the Japanese?

A: There is a story I heard from real witches and laymen. The word "virtual lord" is mentioned in the movie. The witches and laymen pray to see God every day, and pray that God enters their bodies. One day, the witches and laymen feel When God came, I thought that God had already entered his body, but in fact it was a wild ghost who came in. Later, his behavior became strange and he passed away. I want to explain this concept to the audience if I need another helper, and then I have to set up a new role, so I want to simply let Nikko and the Japanese establish a connection through certain behaviors and props. In fact, the ending in the script originally had a paragraph describing the relationship between the two, but I still think that the end of the movie means more on Zhong Jiu's face.

Audience: The scene in the movie where Zhong Jiu turned and left before the cock crows three times reminds me of Peter in the Bible who denies Jesus three times. Is there any connection?

A: Of course there is also a connection, but this setting makes me very embarrassed. I am very shy and too embarrassed to mention this, so I want to lie to you that there is no connection, but it is too obvious, so I admit...( Related).

Audience: Does the camera used by the Japanese in the movie have any symbolic meaning?

A: Uh... what we do with the camera... ah, I admit it. Photos, souls...I admit all of these.

Audience: What is the reason why only the father survived in the family?

A: The name of the movie is "The Cry". Cry refers to the cry of people who are alive after death. As I said before, the movie tells the story of the victim. I hope that the movie can provide comfort to the victim. What kind of comfort is suitable for the film, and is it a decent comfort? Zhong Jiu is a survivor, and of course those who have survived are more painful than those who have died. I hope the movie can convey a message to them: I have seen your desperate efforts. Despite the result, we have seen your contribution in the past 2 hours and 30 minutes. It is not your fault, you are right. So we want Zhong Jiu to survive and take his face so big, knowing that it is not easy to take his face so big.

Audience: The Japanese said that they burned all the photos of the victim, but then we discovered that the photos were in Nikko. Why is this arrangement?

A: As I said before, this is also to establish a connection between Nikko and the Japanese.

Q: Finally, ask the director to say a few words to the audience.

Q: Thank you very much to the viewers who stayed until the end at this late time. (At this time, some viewers went out) Someone was leaving when I said this. The thankful people included them, and also thank you for asking a lot of precious questions. For the audience, I am also grateful for what I usually respect... It is my honor to have the opportunity to sit here with the Li Dongzhen critics thanks to the blessing of this movie. In the future, I also want to keep making genre movies. If this is the case...you have to...please help me, thank you!

(Talking video:http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU2NzE4NTk1Mg==.html )

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