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Sensen Army
Sensen Dajun
Film Critic, Lecturer, Screenwriter, Mother-
daughter Love ,
Answered the following questions from fans:
1 This film is about mother-daughter love, why are there so many complex clues and character relationships?
2 Interpretation of the language of the ending scene
3 Why is the film structure of three acts and five acts bluffing!
4 About the relationship between screenwriting study and watching movies.
Academy Awards (1984; 56th) Awards: 5
Awards · Oscar Award - Best Picture
· Oscar Award - Best Actress
· Oscar Award - Best Supporting Actor
· Oscar Award - Best Director
· Oscar Award - Best Best Adapted Screenplay
Golden Globe Award (1984; 41st) Awards: 4
Awards · Best Picture in a
Movie-Drama · Best Actress in a
Movie-Drama Best Supporting Actor
· Best in a Movie Many people who wrote
the film said they didn't understand it, but they won several Oscars...
Female: I'm just wondering, "Mother and Daughter Love", since this film intends to tell the story of mother and daughter, why does it contain a lot of other things , The plot is messy and five chapters are not organized. There are too many clues and want to talk about everything, but after finishing the story, the audience finds that they can't sort out a line of thought. They always don't know what the director wants to explain? Too much plausibility...
I see what you mean!
Female: The key is that he does not conform to the writing rules of the screenwriter!
Hehe, that's just the rules you made, or the so-called popular rules in our industry, what else are there three acts and five acts... Can that also be called a rule, Hollywood is doing movies like this? Do you really know the rules of film creation...?
Female: Then you can analyze it for everyone!
According to the four-dimensional integrated pull-tab analysis method, let's look at the characters first: these main characters have a common problem, did you notice it, not sticking to the details.
The mother wakes up the child, always worried that the child will die if she can't hear any movement...
Holding her shoes and shaking hands... My
daughter is also carefree, she is such a big girl, she doesn't know if she is exposed... I don't know about the girl next door in the United States Is it all like this.
So is the son-in-law. He looks like he is eating food at the party, without any scruples, without considering the feelings of others.
Not to mention astronauts, why do you think they are designed to be astronauts? Freedom, unrestrained...
Female: That's right! The people in these dramas seem to give people a very different feeling, but why design the characters like this?
So what do you think, informal, what does this mean?
Everyone is very egoistic and doesn't care about other people's opinions and evaluations. Whatever happens the way I want, I can do whatever I want. My understanding of someone and something is correct. What have I done a few times? , When was the first time I did something...
Female: Yes, yes, everyone remembers themselves as themselves, these people have a problem and can't understand others. Between mother and daughter, there are frequent quarrels, so they simply live apart. It is a good idea to communicate on the phone instead of meeting each other.
That's right, the heroine has always been that since she was a child, the more her mother wants to control her daughter, the more her daughter does not let her control her, and gradually develops a rebellious character. Everyone think about it, is it like this when you were a child? Children always reject the constraints from their mothers!
Look again, between the daughter and the husband, there is resonance only when making love, and quarrels are more common at other times.
The same is true for the astronaut. He has no sense of responsibility. When he felt that he might become a part of the heroine's family in the future, he even scared away.
Woman: Actually, what he wants to do most is the role of the old king next door.
Speaking of multiple clues, this film does talk about a lot of love and marriage clips, the daughter's love, the mother's love, there are romance, sweetness, and climax, but those seem to be just memories, let's talk about the daughter's marriage first, he and her husband Together, the sex life is very happy, after all, their age is also on the head, like two cats in heat. The girl gave birth to children one after another. It can be said that she is still very competent as a mother and has a lot of love for her children.
Look again, the heroine Sydney, that is, the love of the mother. At this time, the mother is already an old woman, very romantic, and is at the seaside with the astronaut, but the astronaut is used to freedom and does not want to take on family responsibilities, let alone change himself. The two broke up...
Female: Even if they finally got together, watching the scene of the station breaking up, the heroine was still worried about him, and the astronaut's sentence I love you at this time must be a romantic perfunctory, because men care more about career and honor , they want to live a free and happy life.
When her daughter had cancer, a friend took him to Los Angeles for a vacation and told others about her cancer. The daughter was angry. At that time, she was still very optimistic and thought that cancer was nothing special. The daughter ignored her illness and The kind of love from friends and relatives, but she sends pictures to friends, but she never leaves her children...
Almost all mothers in the world are like this! Let's imagine that the mothers around us are all about children all day long, how many scores are in the test, or where the school organizes to play...
Female: I don't understand, why do you always remind us of our childhood?
This is finding empathy. Only when you have the same feelings as the characters and stories in the play can you understand the thoughts that the director wants to express in the film! Watching a movie is a very important method, that is to say, it requires the audience to fully devote themselves to feeling the emotions of the characters in this movie.
Female: Oh, yes, then this line shows that the generation of daughters cares about their own daughters, and is also deeply in love with mother and daughter...
Yes, we have to see two important episodes
: 1. The daughter is holding the asthmatic child in her arms. Sauna...
2 And Sydney, seeing her daughter sick, roared at the medical staff...
I actually want to say: Only when the child is sick can you see who loves you the most!
Look at the state of your mother, and then compare the state of your husband. You eat well and sleep well. See who takes your illness to heart, who can feel your pain, who is most anxious!
We usually go to the hospital to look around, especially when the children are alive, what are those mothers like, some are really going crazy!
Woman: What you mean is that we need to understand with our hearts, who is the one who truly loves you, right?
That's right! I still want everyone to think and observe. In our daily life, that is, in our daily life, we should select the most fiery and instinctive emotions among the many emotions and characters, and find the person who loves you the most...
Female: There is such a thing. In a word: When you are drunk, you know who you love the most; when you are sick, you know who loves you the most!
well said! Let's see, the two key men in the film are bad enough, that is, the astronaut and the son-in-law. Generally speaking, the family can tie the woman, but not the man. The two key men in the film are too tough. We say that families can tie down women, but not men.
The daughter is seriously ill, the husband is visiting him, and the two are going to quarrel again, but when it comes to the tie, they will stop arguing immediately. What does this scene mean? It shows that the relationship between the two can only be in sweet memories, nothing more.
In fact, think about it, for love in marriage, most men are busy with their careers, and women are busy with their families and children, so how much time do they have to fall in love? After a long time, both parties have extramarital affairs, the sweetness of love can only be remembered, and making love is just an instinct to vent, can this kind of love be considered reliable, can it stand the test of time?
Let's see what you said, the daughter is supporting the orphan at this time, and facing the future responsibilities, the man hesitates and finally backs down. At this time, he is very rational. After all, the three children are too responsible, which means that he may give up his career. Of course, this It doesn't mean that he doesn't love children, and his daughter understands it very well, but this is a man! They are unlikely to love their children more than their mothers.
Woman: In career and family, most of them choose career. Women don't have jobs, so it is normal to be with their children... Let me ask, why doesn't the mother lend her daughter money?
In fact, it should be thought like this, the daughter is disobedient, married such a man, did not listen to the persuasion at the beginning, and now has a third child, how can you take it? The mother is worried, for fear that her daughter will suffer! So it is recommended to drop it! Think about it, today's parents don't let their children have two or three children. Most of it is to prevent their children from suffering.
Woman: After that, when the daughter is seriously ill, the grandmother must take in the granddaughter. Why?
Because the granddaughter is part of the daughter, it is her flesh and blood! These plots reflect the mother-daughter relationship to the extreme!
Remember the title? When my daughter falls asleep, my mother always thinks that she may be dead, so she has to wake her up... Mom is so worried about you! That's why you're still so young and so weak.
At the end of the film, when the daughter finally closed her eyes, my mother felt that it should not be like this at this time. Why is it different from what I imagined? My mother is so scared, why did you leave me like this... The
director actually thought Explanation: Only when you love someone deeply, will you be worried about missing someone, and you will be thinking wildly! The white-haired person sends the black-haired person some love, it really is only paying without return! But do mothers really care about this? They only care about whether their daughter can stay by their side...
Female: So many of the above feelings, what does the film want to show?
Love is something that can't stand the test of time. What iloveyou is, it is a signal of estrus, and it is no different from calling a bed. Iloveyou before going to bed, giving it to the hen when the bed is long, this is all calling!
Do you think those two people were discussing the sound of bed calls? Is it annoying for my daughter to hear these after cancer? She has already passed that time period. The key director wants to explain that at this time, her daughter has actually seen through this aspect. Love is a thing that has been around for a long time or is unreliable at a critical moment. Extramarital affairs may occur at any time. , This is also human nature, men and women are the same, to vent their desires!
Let’s talk about it again, the so-called responsibilities of men, father’s responsibilities and family responsibilities are mostly given by the outside world. The so-called family responsibility, men pay more attention to career, fame and fortune, and the burden of raising a family…
And what is instinct, instinct is more of love from the heart. There is no label or definition, I don't care what others say, there is no should or should, I just want to do this, I must do it, this is mother's love, instinct!
When you are in pain, who is anxious for you, who wants to be in pain with you and share your pain? When you want to die, who wants to die like you and meet in heaven? Mother...
we have all experienced the intensity of maternal love!
Of course, there is one more point: Father's love is also very instinctive and strong. Father's love is like a mountain! But that is not the theme that this film wants to express, it can only be used as a foil, not to dominate!
Woman: Yes, I can understand that. Every movie has its own theme, so you can't be pretentious!
Pay attention to the end of the film, this group of shots is too interesting, all the dialogues in the pictures are all drama!
Look, two men together, two women together, what are they talking about? Everyone pay attention to the dialogue: what the astronaut said to the child: go to my house and see the swimming pool? My child is worried, is it right now? That's what, it doesn't matter! Let's go!
Unexpected meaning, subtext: We are men, gentlemen, we should afford it and let it go! Life has to go on after all. It's called a conversation between men, understand?
So why does the mother who cares for the orphan before the sickbed wants to let her child grow up to be better to women in the future, because men are too egoistic, and when they love each other, they vow eachother, if they don't love them, they will let go 88!
Female: The director wants to say that the nature of men is like this, and it cannot be changed!
Look here again, Grandma Sydney sat next to her granddaughter, patted her thigh, and asked the little girl to get closer, what does that mean? Everyone must pay attention, at this time, the state of these two people should not be interpreted as grandma and granddaughter, because this little girl was born by his daughter, and the girl has the shadow of her mother.
Female: Yes, when grandma learned that her daughter was going to die , she must adopt this little girl, because she has been thinking about her daughter, and she hopes that her daughter is still alive and can live by her side. Only mothers can think like this
. All the strange thoughts that mothers have in their dreams are all instinctive love from the heart...
At this time, pay attention, the grandmother asked the granddaughter to come over the subtext: our mother and two are not the same generation!
So you see, she asked the child to sit over, closer, closer... Got it? There is no generation gap between them. In my eyes, you are my lovely daughter.
Look again, the daughter is sitting on her mother's lap at this time, her grandmother's attire at this time, wearing sunglasses, isn't she very young? This is actually the director's meticulous arrangement of a group photo of mother and daughter decades ago as the ending. Please keep them as good memories with your mother! At this moment, it is also deeply etched in the memory of every audience.
Let's go through the pictures of mothers and children in childhood, and the children who laugh the most are always children! How real, how delicate!
Woman: Wow, you have such a feeling to interpret it like this, I almost cried...
Watching a movie must be experienced with emotion. Watching this is called a master's handwriting, Oscar never bluffs!
Woman: Yes, no wonder this movie won so many awards? Hi, it seems that I'm still not subtle enough to understand much!
Our audience saw a lot of emotional events in this film: there are mothers and daughters, there are mothers and children, there is love, and there is extramarital affairs. But I tell you, this is precisely the director's arrangement!
The most wonderful part of this film is to let the audience compare and select, to observe and appreciate
to see if our audience can choose from them, which kind of emotion is the strongest and instinctive.
Isn't it the same in our life? What we keep deep in our memory will always be those people or things that are the strongest and most worrying. Can you find the person who loves you the most?
Female: In other words, these three acts and five acts are all nonsense concepts?
Then let's look at the reality: Is there a three-act king or a five-act king in the screenwriting circle?
In addition, you can't guarantee the box office by doing this? If you don't tell a story in three acts, can you guarantee that a movie written like this will be watched? Aren't you the King of Five Acts, can you guarantee your movie will win?
If none of this is guaranteed, what is your definition of what circles do you draw in film creation?
Woman: Indeed! |I have seen many Oscar films, with various structures and forms, there are many films that are halfway through, and the protagonists are not written, anyway, there are situations...
I have said it more than once, the structure of the film and the narrative technique are only similar to the film related themes. As for whether the audience is moved or not, whether it is exciting or not, it has nothing to do with the structure!
As long as the plot setting is exciting and delicate, you can grab the hearts of the audience and that's ok! A person who can tell a story, you can cry no matter what you say, because my plot is all there!
If you don't tell a story, it's useless for you to make a few paragraphs, and you can't find the highlights of the plot. It's unbearable to make up vulgarities.
Woman: So, screenwriters didn't learn it?
It is realized! If you don't watch so many good movies, don't bother to watch, don't bother to think, what else do you need to learn, learn from this and that, and waste your time!
I also discovered a phenomenon. When I find that there are very few movie reviews on the Internet, I know that the movie is difficult to understand. If you watch it again, the movie reviews on the Internet will basically be too varied. , there must be a lot of negative comments inside!
Woman: Yes, many viewers feel that the Oscar movie is dizzy, and they don't understand it!
But you can't think that all audiences are dizzy! You think, if everyone in the world can't understand, who will this master-level director and star film together for, and how did they get the award?
Woman: I'm still curious, the same movie, why you can always see it so thoroughly and feel it?
Let me tell you some experiences: movies always talk about human nature, marriage, family, discuss social issues, and life philosophy... At this time, you must not think about what is right or wrong and what is right and wrong in your heart, and do not subjectively lead or reject or contradict a certain an image role. Because human nature is never right or wrong, the fate of the characters in the play, right or wrong, their future is not up to you to arrange and decide, that is the director's business.
You just have to think, is the story in the film true, is there a lot of people like this around you?
Don't judge from a certain height! You are just an audience, you are not the director. Sitting in the auditorium, you just need to listen with your ears, watch with your eyes, and think about how the director reminds and inspires you step by step through the story, so as to actively accept this kind of brainwashing by the master of art.
Woman: Got it, let's not be judges and judge who is right and who is wrong!
right! If you instinctively resist or habitually reject this kind of brainwashing, then what you have lost must be art. This kind of person is not suitable for going to the cinema, but is only suitable for viewing conventional programs at home.
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