Minutes of the Symposium After Viewing Orson Welles' "Beautiful Woman"

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Minutes of the post-viewing symposium on Orson Welles's " Beautiful Woman in History" / Arranged by Fan Daming / Time: January 18, 2014 (Saturday) 11:00-11:
25am Venue : Henglu Art, No. 202, Nanshan Road, Hangzhou The lecture hall on the ground floor of the museum (the scene after the viewing of Orson Welles' "Beautiful Woman" in Henglu Art Film Bar) Participants: (Preface) Fan Daming, Ms. Hu, Shi Chunxiao, Shi Jingjing, Niu Yuzhu, Cai Ling, Huang Xiumei, Jin Aiwu , Ma Yile, He Ji, Wu Wanqin, Qu Ruoxia, Chen Peiyao, Zhou Lianzhi, Xu Yun, Chen Xinru, Jiang Yiqun (viewers: Wang Xiling, Fan Dayin, Huang Shanmin, Zhang Zongyu, Hao Yuxia, Ying Qichang, Qian Honggen, Weng Xiliang, Sun Furong, Wang Xunzhi, Zhang Peijiang, Wang Weiping, Wang Jianyun, Sun Fengfeng, Yu Baiwen, Liu Siyue, Du Xinxia, ​​etc.) Moderator: Fan Daming Record: Jiang Yiqun's film title Touch of Evil (touch of evil) should mainly be a judgment on Kunlan's character attributes









Van Damming: "Beautiful Woman" is directed by Orson Welles and starring himself. It was filmed in 1958 when he was no more than 43 years old. The image in films such as Othello, in which he played the image of Hank Quinlan, a detective in a small town on the American border with Mexico, actually transformed into such a potbellied appearance, which makes people feel incredible. However, giving this locally respected veteran detective such a potbellied appearance (with a cigar in his mouth) is very suitable for the external appearance of this role. As Mexican prosecutor Mike Vargas investigates the drug-trafficking activities of the powerful local Grandi family, led by Uncle Joe, the latter plots and instigates a gang of minions, while he is on vacation with his new wife, Susie. When he first entered the United States after passing the border inspection, he deliberately created a car bombing case, and deceived Susie without authorization in the chaos, intending to give a "warning" to Vargas' justice law enforcement. Due to the disagreement between Vargas' decision based on evidence and Hank Quinlan's subjective judgment in the handling of the car bombing case, the conflict between the two became irreconcilable - it turned out that Quinlan's previous case handling was all based on law enforcement and crime In terms of the "performance" of the unjust, false and wrongful convictions, in the conflict, Quinlan even deliberately strangled Uncle Qiao, and used this to frame and frame the kidnapped wife of Vargas, and shot and killed the consciousness. His colleague and friend Pete got up. The film finally shows that our detective, Quinlan, is already a sinful murderer covered in murderous blood. The meaning of the original title Touch of Evil should be mainly aimed at the judgment of the character attributes of Quinlan. Quinlan's qualitative transformation from detective to murderer shows that Orson Welles' film has created a very special artistic image for us, which is obviously a typical example of a split personality produced in a special social environment figure. This is worthy of our attention and consideration. In the "Training Day" screened not long ago in our movie bar, there is a shadow of the character of Quinlan in Alozzo, a black American anti-drug police officer.

The film begins with a long shot of 3 minutes and 17 seconds, which is the most talked about
Ms. Hu in the history of film: the film starts to feel a little chaotic and can't grasp the clue.
Fan Daming: In fact, a scene at the beginning of this film is the most talked about in the history of film. This is a long shot of 3 minutes and 17 seconds. It begins with a close-up of a ticking time bomb device being held by someone as he places it in the trunk of a roadside sedan as owner Rudy Renica and his lover, stripper Zeta Appears, they get into the car, and the camera zooms up and pans over the roofs of the street houses to a street that connects to the border checkpoint, this time with Mexican prosecutor Mike Vargas with his new wife Susie Entering the scene of the camera, the two of them came to the checkpoint in parallel with the car one after another... The car passed the checkpoint and came out of the picture, and finally there was a still picture of Vargas and Susie kissing and a message outside the picture. ended with an explosion. There are a lot of different changes in the movement of the shots (many are the moving shots of the walking Vargas couple in front of them); and the second shot we see (and hear) right after this is the car There is a scene of fire in the explosion - in other words, the first shot of the whole film is the entire continuation process from the timing of the time bomb to the scene where it finally explodes (also the actual time period when the bomb is timed). ) was filmed in its entirety (without any editing). It is worth mentioning that when the car was parked in front of the checkpoint, Zeta, a stripping girl in the passenger seat, repeatedly stated that she heard a ticking sound in the car, but her questions were not received. The response from Nika and everyone else around. And this, in the arrangement of the plot of the film, laid the groundwork for the bombing that happened next, and it was a wonderful touch in the details of the film.

Detectives like Quinlan are well-known, and they can do bad things
without leaking. After 30 years of police work, I can also make money to open a farm.
Shi Jingjing: The film provided us with a great burden, and finally the burden was shaken off and the question was raised. The film's shot of Quinlan is from looking up to looking up, and finally looking down at the bridge, which is in line with the change in the understanding of the character's image by the director and the audience. The pacing of the cinematography is also good. In the end, Quinlan told his partner Pete that he took the second bullet for Pete, alluding to the affection and camaraderie they had forged during their previous work together. Detectives like Quinlan are well-known, and they can do bad things perfectly.

Quinlan and Pitt finally shoot each other and die under each other's bullets. This is the tragic side of the film,
Van Damien: This is the so-called "black light", which is the most terrifying. They ended up shooting each other, dying each other's bullets. After discovering the evidence that Quinlan killed Uncle Joe and stayed at the scene, in order to prevent Quinlan from killing innocent Vargas, Pitt struggled to fire the last shot despite being shot by Quinlan. He took the life of his colleague Quinlan, followed by his own. This is the tragic side of the film.
Jin Aiwu: This is an American police and gangster film. It has elements of drug trafficking, explosions, fighting, etc. In the end, it must be the victory of justice over evil. It is very breathable to watch. The dialogue in the film is excellent. The director has the ability to shape characters and narrate the plot. Some treatments are delicate.

Orson Welles has made a great contribution to the history of film, the characters in the film are not facialized, and the inner character is complex
. His shots, transitions, etc. are perfect. The camera angles of the upside down and downside shots create a great sense of shock for the audience. The pacing of the movie is very well controlled. It was not easy to do this in the 1950s, and it had a great impact on Hollywood's later films. The director is definitely a genius among geniuses. But in his middle and late stage, he did not go well in the filming and failed at the box office. The opening paragraph of the film also explained the contradiction between him and the film company. Looking at the film today, I feel that the director has mastered the film very well. The characters in the film are not facialized and have complex internal personalities. What Detective Quinlan is doing now has something to do with his wife's previous strangulation. The title of the film, "Beautiful Lady in History", refers to a beautiful woman, which actually alludes to the calamity of justice. Because it is in a small town on the border between the United States and Mexico, the sky is high and the emperor is far away. The personal powers of a police officer or detective represent local laws. The law enforcers themselves used illegal means to enforce the law, which has actually determined the final tragic fate of Quinlan.
Cai Ling: I have watched several Orson Welles films in a row. From the films he directed in his 20s, 30s and 40s, his acting skills are also very good. The film shows the multifaceted nature of human nature. Good people and bad people are transformed into each other. The picture of the film is good, and the black and white images are like artistic portraits, which are very attractive.
Huang Xiumei: (The record is missing.)

Quinlan's "intuition" also contains reasonable factors that he made inferences based on his decades of life experience
. This approach is of course contrary to the evidence-based approach required by the law, but Quinlan's "intuition" actually includes the fact that he made inferences based on the experience accumulated over decades of life. This is an element of reliability, which should be said to contain a reasonable factor. For this reason, at the end of the film, it also shows us the possibility that he is not relying on direct contact experience but only by his "intuition" to determine that Vargas is secretly following him to do conversation eavesdropping. And the film also shows the certainty that Vargas is doing at the same time, which devotes himself to verifying that his "intuition" really has a certain correct reliability. When the audience watches this part of the film, most of them will have a somewhat understanding attitude of appreciation.

The situation in the U.S. back then was very similar to the situation in China now, but the social environment of the two countries was different.
Ma Yile: The film portrays good people and bad people without making any face, and dares to expose the evil of the gang, which left a deep impression on me. . Accepting bribes, framing and framing, etc. In many places, the situation in the United States was very similar to the situation in China now. But these dark things can be shown on the screen in the United States. In the film, Quinlan's performance also has its own development process. The setbacks in his past life, coupled with being drawn by the gang, made him gradually become what he is now.
Niu Yuzhu: The social environment in China and the United States is still different. The United States strives to shape it as a legal society; domestically, it is a movement to create gods, placing hopes on individuals. The prosecutor in the film, Mike Vargas (despite being Mexican), is a symbol of America's legal society. You see, there was a car bombing on the American side, which had nothing to do with him, but he got involved. Of course, he first arranged for his new wife to be in a motel.
He Ji: (The record is missing.)

Orson Welles' films have considerable artistic prowess and delicacy worth savoring
Fan Daming: The whole film is actually describing and shaping many characters with different personalities of different social classes and levels. For example, the female owner of the bar, Tana, was once Quinlan's lover. Although she also installed a TV, an old-fashioned automatic piano was still not removed. It was the sound of the piano that summoned Quinlan who was investigating the case Lan came to Tana's bar again, but Tana obviously knew some of his bad deeds and no longer welcomed him; in fact, she was still concerned about Quinlan's final fate, which is from the end of the film when she was in the shooting case. The presence of the scene speaks for itself. There is also the "night watchman" of the motel called Melardo, who, although he doesn't make a lot of appearances, makes a deep impression: it's a very funny image, and maybe a little mentally ill. In addition, the director threw a sulfuric acid bottle at the prosecutor Vargas through the minions of Uncle Qiao, and hit this detail of the performance poster posted on the street wall. We noticed that the poster had the stage name of ZITA (ZITA), and There's a slogan "Only for a week", which gives us information on the name and whereabouts of the new stripper in the town's nightclub (she was apparently caught by local rich Rudy Renica as soon as she appeared on the show). I got it, and in the end, I was buried with the rich guy in the fire in the second shot of the film) and so on. Maybe, we watch the film over and over again, and we can figure out more things in it. This shows that Orson Welles' films have considerable artistic skill and delicacy worth savoring.

Organized on February 8-9, 2014

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Touch of Evil quotes

  • Ramon Miguel 'Mike' Vargas: You are a policeman, aren't you?

    Quinlan: Aren't you? You don't seem very fond of the job.

    Ramon Miguel 'Mike' Vargas: There are plenty of soldiers who don't like war.

  • Ramon Miguel 'Mike' Vargas: It's a dirty job, enforcing the law; but, it's what we're supposed to be doing, isn't it?