Minutes of the Symposium After Viewing Almodovar's "Woman on the Brink of Spiritual Collapse"

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Minutes of the post-view forum for Almodovar's work "Woman on the Brink of Spiritual Collapse"
/ Organized by Fan Daming /

Time: 10:45-11:15 am, October 13, 2012 (Saturday)
Venue: Henglu Art, No. 202, Nanshan Road, Hangzhou The lecture hall of the museum
(the scene after the viewing of Almodovar's work "Woman on the Brink of Spiritual Collapse" at Henglu Art Film Bar)
Participants: (Preface) Fan Daming, Cai Ling, Gu Jun, Chen Xingsheng, Ding Yunzhen, Li Jian, Zhang Qin, Ye Zhangyun , Wang Wei, Wu Wei, Wang Yuqin, Qiu Huafen (viewers: Wang Xiling, He Ji, Ji Boqing, Fang Yonggen, etc.)
Moderator: Fan Daming
Record : Wu Wei

The whole film revolves around several women facing various difficulties. The entanglements mainly took place in Pepa's house
Fan Daming: Henglu Art Cinema will enter its 8th season from today, the Spanish film season. We have selected 12 films by two Spanish film masters, Buñuel and Almodóvar, to be scheduled from October to December. From July to September, the show was closed for the summer vacation, and there was a gap of 3 months from the last time. Some friends may not come due to lack of information. Screening today is a 1988 work by Spanish director Pedro Almodóvar. The whole film revolves around several women who are facing various difficulties and difficulties. The heroine is named Pepa, a celebrity in the entertainment industry. She has a good temperament and is not married. The wife was married, but his wife was in a mental hospital. The latter only thought that her husband was going to travel with Pepa. In fact, it was with Ivan's new love, a young female lawyer, a feminist. . That is to say, Ivan has had three women successively. Pepa, who had been living with Ivan before, knew that something was wrong and was ready to break up with him, but she wanted to tell him something, but the phone couldn't get through, which made him restless and almost nervous. Also interspersed was one of her girlfriends, Candela, who was afraid to return home for fear that she would be implicated in her relationship with her Shiite terrorist boyfriend. The dramatic entanglement mainly takes place in the living room of Pepa's house, and Pepa's house is ready for sale, so the story also involves the people who came to see the house - they happen to be the son of Ivan and his ex-wife and his fiancee , and Ivan's son is back with his sleepy fiancee and has a good relationship with Candela again. The kind Pepa wants to arrange the fiancee who is making the bill to the phone repairman...

Pepa's pregnancy: as emotion and suspense
Cai Ling : Pepa has always wanted to talk to her man, maybe it's her pregnancy, which shows that she is still very affectionate to that man emotionally.
Van Damien: Pepa's pregnancy was a suspense until the end of the story. This treatment is wonderful.

Pepa's Personality: An independent woman with fun, she's relieved by the end
Gu Jun: I feel that Pepa is relieved in the end. She no longer likes her man, so she wants to keep the house and not sell it. Pepa is a fun, independent woman with a job of her own. She raised plants and animals. At first, she was afraid that staying in this house would evoke memories of her love, so she wanted to sell it. In the end, she no longer loved that man, and she still wanted this house to continue her life. Life. I think this film has a good story structure and good shooting techniques. So many characters and plots are integrated, but they can be told in a complete and organized manner. Every character has a personality, the film is very Spanish, with bright colors, a passionate Spanish character, and those post-modern music, for example, the music when Pepa followed his lover downstairs that night was very good. People's emotions are aroused.

The idea of ​​the film is very interesting, revolving around the thoughts and characters of several female characters, including the storytelling of feminism.
Fan Daming : Several female characters in the film have strong personalities.
Chen Xingsheng: Compared with everyone here, my level may be lower. After watching this film, my intuitive feeling is that the film revolves around the thoughts and personalities of several female characters, including women’s rights in storytelling. interesting. This film is actually a drama, but it is embodied in a comedy way, including the cold soup, and what Teacher Fan said, how Pepa arranges the repairman, all have a comedy color and can be watched. There are very few movies in Spain now. Looking back at the Spanish movies I watched before, the artistic level is not low. Whether it is a man or a woman, life is too complicated. At the end, she said that she had a child, which shows that she is right This man's love is sincere. The director and screenwriter are very good, and I appreciate the music and photography of the film. Especially when the character's emotional breakdown is very personal. Taken together, this movie has something for professionals to learn, and it also allows us laymen to watch it.

The film reflects a universal problem: understanding of life, women are often love first
Ding Yunzhen: This film reflects a universal problem, which is the understanding of life. Women are often the most important in love. In order to reflect this theme, the director has made a lot of ingenious ideas, and many accidental factors have been combined to make this film have Appreciation and artistry. Many women, including those in China, regard love as supreme, and regard it as the whole of life, so much so that they lose themselves. But not for men. This movie is cleverly conceived and worth watching.

Pepa is not just a woman's emotional problem, it is motherhood and simple things that affect her
Li Jian : The main plot in the film is that her lover is leaving her. This contains a lot of comedy elements, adding a lot of small details, very fresh live. Like leopard prints, taxis, and a phone that has been repeatedly thrown out, I thought it was just a woman's emotional problem, but then she said that she had a child, indicating that some maternal and simple things were affecting her, so she was not complaining about women. . The overall feeling of the film is quite appreciated.

The theme of the film: It's right for a woman to be crazy about love, but she still needs to be independent; she must be open-minded and open-minded
Zhang Qin: This is the first time I've watched a Spanish film. Fiancee - She has a distinctive appearance, like the face of a Picasso character.
Fan Daming: This actor is a famous Spanish actor...
Zhang Qin: And the music when Ivan's wife appeared was very funny. In this film, the men are very attentive, and the women are all women who are crazy for love. Pepa likes this man very much. Two days and two nights, he was on the verge of collapse and finally let it go and returned to his own life. I think this The theme of the film is that it is right to be crazy about love, but women still need to be independent and not lose everything for men.
Ye Zhangyun: The color sense of the film is very strong, especially in the taxi; there are also the characters' red clothes, and the reasons given at the end. The heroine is very open-minded and open-minded at the end.

The charm of details: a commercial for detergent about the heroine Pepa
Fan Daming: It is worth mentioning that a commercial for detergent performed by the heroine Pepa was inserted into the film. The powerful detergent can remove all the blood stains on the clothes contaminated by the murderer, which is enough to deceive the police. This is very humorous and adds to the comedy factor of the film. In addition, it not only shows the nature of the heroine's acting career, but also shows a side of Spanish society entering the modern business society and media era. This is also an example of the charm of a director's attention to detail.

It is right for a woman to be crazy for a man. Men also have to go through a lot of women to know who they really love.
Wang Wei: I think the film is beautiful. After going crazy, the calmness is in place. In fact, a woman has to go through crazy before she can really live , Crazy for men should be.
Fan Daming: You are speaking from a male standpoint...
Wang Wei: A man also has to go through a lot of women to know who he loves in the end.

The film begins with a black-and-white film: the male protagonist walks all the way through beautiful women in different costumes
Fan Daming : At the beginning of the film, the male protagonist walks all the way, passing beautiful women in different costumes, and they are courteous and flattering to him one by one , At this time, the film is treated as a black and white film effect, which may not refer to the state of the hero Ivan in life, but to show a video he shot. The film uses this lens to hint and allude to the so-called "strong" position of the charismatic male protagonist living among women; at the same time, it also tells us that the occupations of the two male and female protagonists in the film are both engaged in film dubbing work. Celebrities in the showbiz...
Chen Xingsheng: The film did not condemn the male protagonist. This film is worthy of our Chinese filmmakers to watch and absorb some good things.

Different people have different motives in the scene of tracking Ivan in a car
Fan Daming: In the latter part of the film, in the scene where people follow Ivan to the airport by car, different people have different motives: the police regarded Ivan as a terrorist who hijacked the plane; the mentally ill wife herself was a hijacker with a gun—— Hijacked the motorcycle owner, she was crazy enough to use a gun to chase and kill her husband who was about to board the plane; while Pepa's tracking was sensible and sober, she knew the madness of the former, and finally saved Ivan with her actions life, so that he did not fall victim to the gunpoint of his mentally ill wife. This play turns the original basic indoor drama style of the film into a farce style. Of course, in order to push the ending, it is still important in the entire plot structure.

Arrangement at the end: It is interesting to let Ivan and the feminist lawyer go away at the end.
Wu Wei: This is a film that focuses on the situation of women. Since the director supports feminism, the final arrangement is to let Ivan and that feminist go away. It's interesting that the feminist lawyers go away (and not the other women). In the film, whether it is the collapsed ex-wife, the famous actor Pepa, or the feminist lawyer, etc., they are all confused and confused because of Ivan. It seems that being obsessed with love is the fate of women, but in the end, it is up to women to let themselves collapse or let go, or to remain obsessed with love. Regarding this, perhaps no matter what kind of woman, she will know what to do after she has experienced it emotionally, and will know how to let go.

Fan Daming: That's it for today's discussion. Thank you for staying after watching the film, and collectively made an interpretation of this film with its own unique understanding and experience. See you next week!

Organized on October 20-21, 2012

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Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown quotes

  • Pepa: Hello. I'm the mother of the notorious Crossroads Killer. When my son comes home after one of his famous crimes, his clothes are just filthy.

    [Pepa holds up a bloody shirt. The police arrive]

    Policía I: Where are the clothes your son wore...

    Policía II: At the time of the murder?

    [Pepa takes a clean shirt out of the dryer]

    Pepa: Right here. Sparkling clean.

    Policía I: No trace of blood.

    Policía II: Or guts.

    Policía I: Unbelievable!

    [Pepa holds up a box of detergent]

    Pepa: Ecce Homo. It's unbelievable.

  • Pepa: You could have killed yourself!

    Candela: That was the idea. I'm desperate.

    Pepa: So am I, but I don't jump off terraces.

    Candela: I didn't know where to go. I couldn't face my folks. It's bad enough that I became a model.