logical lack of support

Garry 2022-03-23 09:02:02

I have to admit that the idea of ​​​​this film is still very unique, but I think the screenwriter's grasp of the script is still not enough, there are some logical flaws, at least the audience needs to make assumptions to explain it.
After reading a lot of analysis of the film, I have a few questions:

1. Where did the first key come from?
The key in the play is passed from the later Jess(Jess[i-1]) to the new Jess(Jess[i]). If Jess[i] already has the key, then the new Jess[i] pocket There are two keys in it, and then Jess[i] drops the key and passes it to Jess[i+1], so it should be two instead of one.
If every new Jess comes without a key, where did the only key on the ship come from?
Did Jess bring it up one time and not every other time? Or "then a miracle occurs"?

2 How did the necklace fall off for the first time?
In the play, it is shown that Jess got down when he saw the necklace below, but how did he drop the necklace for the first time? Obviously, there was no necklace below the first time, so the first time and all the following ones fell off. The necklace situation is different

3 Why is the first "kill them all" written?
In the play, Jess saw a bunch of "kill them all", so he copied "kill them all" in order to compare the handwriting, so how did the first "kill them all" come from? Obviously it can't be explained by contrasting handwriting


and take a step back. I thought of two hypotheses about the timeline of this film:

1. The timeline is a loop, with no beginning and no end, just like everything is doomed, but if this is the case , there should be an infinite (uncountable) number of dead Sally's corpses and necklaces.

2 If the timeline has a starting point, it can be deduced that the time is sequential, so that the first problem above can be explained with one initialization, but in this way, Jess who is on the ship for the first time will not encounter any Jess. Because if she encounters it, it will destroy the condition of "time is sequential". In order to achieve the problem of 3 Jess on the same stage in the play, this cycle must be initialized twice.


Taking a step back, aside from the first question, in the play Victor rushed into the restaurant and pinched Jess by the neck once, but was killed by Jess, but another time Victor rushed into the restaurant and was pointed by Jess[i-1] with a gun. and met Jess[i]. There are also two versions of the scene where Jess runs into the theater, and I think I can only explain it with two different loops.

It can be seen that this cycle is changing. Can the changed cycle still be called a cycle? I can also say that my life is a cycle every day, anyway, every day is almost the same, and some are still the same.

In other words, the number of scenes in the play is a finite and countable n, so it is always possible to find a loop with an initialization number less than or equal to n to explain. I think counting the first problem, and the two versions of the scene in the film, I can only explain it with at least 3 initializations, so I think the logic of the film is not passable.

In fact, the film does not conform to the known laws of nature. If all the assumptions are based on the known laws of nature, the film cannot be deduced through pure logical reasoning. Therefore, some supernatural phenomena must be assumed in order to make inferences. Laws exist, but this raises the question of how to evaluate different assumptions and the reasoning based on them? If all the n scenes in the film are assumed to be supernatural laws, then the whole film can obviously be explained, but at the same time, it is equivalent to no explanation, but I think these hypothetical supernatural laws should be as few as possible and not seem absurd. . By this standard, so far I have not thought of or seen any satisfactory explanation.

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Triangle quotes

  • Driver: [wakes Jess up] Hey. I'll leave the meter running. You will come back, won't you?

    Jess: Yes. I promise.

  • Jess: [looking at the pieces of paper with writing on it on the floor] IF THEY BOARD KILL THEM