Bergman's knot

Maureen 2022-03-21 09:03:26

The first Bergman I watched, the following are the viewing notes of married life, which are updated from time to time

1. The first step into the world of Bergman was deleted and slapped. Bergman made a mess of how desperate and desperate he was about marriage, but left a slipknot at the end that didn't make sense. Their fairy-tale and realistic type of marriage is for the time being called the "Bergman's Knot."

2. Three marital states

Child abuse type:

Pete and Catalina, husband and wife, hate each other, and each other is as immature as children.

Pale type:

Readme of the divorced lady: "I told myself that I had the ability to love, but he was tied up, my life was holding back my ability...something strange was happening, my function was disappearing,...like this A table, I can touch and see it, but it feels far away and dry, understand? Everything is like this, the music, the smell, the face, the voice, everything becomes pale and dignified."

Husbands and wives have complete personalities, but they have no love for each other, not even any feelings. There is no hatred and disgust, only polite respect and genuine escape. Do your best, even if you don't feel anything.

Bergman's knot:

The marriage of Marianne and Johann is also a model that is closer to most people.

"Men's boyishness, lack of self-confidence and women's psychoticism"

"They can't be separated, and they can't live together. They do all kinds of cruel harm to each other. Only two people in this situation can become so cruel. It's like dancing the dance of death skillfully together. ." ("Bergman on Cinema>)

3. Emotional blindness: ignorance of feelings, insensitivity to love. The example of a divorced woman makes everyone feel that this is the product of a loveless marriage, but the film's analysis of Marianne gradually reveals that Marianne is also inherently emotionally blind to a certain extent. Emotional blindness is more caused by one's own character, and more rooted in family and growth experience.

4. Marianne's Self-Analysis: "I feel like something is covering me, I have to admit I don't know who I am, I have no clue about it...I always do what others say ,... The education my sisters and I have received is designed to make us obey,... Deliberately not telling others what we think, pretending to be likable and simple, and you will be rewarded.... Hide yourself and be my second Nature....I keep pretending, pretending to be in relationships with other people...I'm always acting hard,...never thinking about what I want, I just want what they want me to want? That's not what I've done before What I thought was altruistic, but downright cowardly, and worse, all that was triggered by my ignorance of myself, our mistake in never getting rid of the influence of our family and never creating anything of value to us.”

Marianne: emotional blindness, lack of love, dependence

Chauhan: Lack of self-confidence, so arrogant

Lack of love and confidence can lead to a lack of insight and blindness to emotional rifts.

Qiaohan's naivety is also reflected in his selfish possessiveness that continues after abandoning his wife, and his "unbearable" love for his new love again interprets his character, so that as long as a relationship approaches the state of marriage, it will inevitably fall into this "berger". Man's Knot" is broken.

5. Conflict comes from excessive harmony. Excessive harmony in intimate relationships is itself an illusion of dissonance.

6. Johan and Marianne represent two different attitudes towards sex: impulsive and chipped. The two cannot coexist harmoniously. Differences between husband and wife often lead to deviations in sexual concepts, which often become an important part of the dominoes in marital crisis.

7. Sense of reincarnation: Qiaohan whistled as if he was getting smaller and smaller, and Marianne became "tearful". The two experienced torture and growth, but finally returned to innocence and lightness. If this kind of rejuvenation is the "live festival" with a little hope, then the sense of reincarnation behind it tells of deep despair. Falling in love and killing each other in 20 years of marriage is like returning to first love, just like the phrase "We can never understand the person we love the most."

8. Store a line:

- Johan, are we living in chaos?

- are you and me ?

- No, everyone. I mean fear, ignorance and impermanence. Don't you think we're not afraid of drifting apart and not knowing what to do?

-Yes.

- is it too late?

-Yes. But we can't say those words, think about them.

- Are we missing something important?

- all of us?

- No, you and me.

- what is it?

-Sometimes I know what you think and I feel so kind that I even forget myself, completely forget myself. This feeling is brand new, you understand?

-I understand.

-Sometimes it hurts to not be able to love anyone anymore, I feel like I'm not going to love anyone anymore, that makes me feel sad.

- I think you're too dramatic right now.

-Yes?

- I can feel it.

- I love you selfishly, I think you love me, although you are always picky and entangled. Our love is worldly and imperfect,

-Your requirements are too harsh, but I am here now, indeed, in this dark house, somewhere in the world, sitting beside you and holding your arms around you, and you also put your arms around me. I'm not a very compassionate person, I'm not very imaginative, I don't know what our love looks like, I can't describe it, and a lot of times I can't feel it.

- do you really think i love you too?

-Yes. Our love will never come back if we keep sticking to it.

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Scenes from a Marriage quotes

  • Johan: You need to put a lot of effort into not caring.

  • Marianne: We're pitiful, self-indulgent cowards that can't connect with reality and are ashamed of ourselves.