4.5.
Just a while ago, bbc had an interview with former porn star mia khalifa, in which mia said that the people at the time of the film gave her invisible pressure so that she had to continue filming, in fact, this is the same as the experiment of this film, in many cases You are actually free, you can choose to refuse, but many people have been taught that way since childhood, obedient and obedient, dominated by the fears imagined by the subconscious, and the people who domesticate us are often our parents and teachers.
In addition to the experimental film, I also talked about the author's life. It's not so much about life as it is about the impact of obeying the experiment on his whole life. Even before he died, he had to comment on the nurse's proxy model with a wry smile. In fact, it is quite touching, especially when you have done something "important to you and can fully express what you want to express from your soul at that time", someone thank you from the bottom of your heart for bringing such a work, and You feel that all of this has nothing to do with yourself now, but every now and then you think about it again. When I saw the scene where he waved goodbye in the lab at the end, I felt like crying, so much so that after watching it, I was dazed for a long time.
The movie was a bit boring in the middle, and those stage-style expressions were a bit misplaced, so I couldn't get 5 stars, sorry.
Regarding the ethics of the experiment, I am also conflicted. The problem seems to focus on two issues: 1. Using invisible pressure to force subjects to do something, and 2. Allowing subjects to hurt others and then deny themselves. Although the results of the experiment did not cause harm to the subject, the subject's own psychological activities were completely experienced, and the subject realized that he was not a "good person". Not very acceptable. I fully understand, I fully understand that although this is a process of self-knowledge, it is really a very long and painful transformation process, especially if the subjects are adults or even middle-aged people who have not experienced such psychological changes. It is more difficult for people to accept. So Milgram's approach, 1, certainly did not take care of everyone's psychological level. As mentioned above, this is a fact. He is, for some people, cold and unloving, and made an experiment. 2. From the point of view of liberal morality, he did not actually hurt others. The subjects could refuse at any time, but they did not realize that they had this right and strength. In the end, their refusal to accept their own evil was only a matter of of their own making.
Did he really not actually hurt others? I think of another problem, that is, some workplace harassment cases in recent years, whether it is forced overtime or sexual harassment, in fact, if you look at it according to the standard of liberalism, if there is a sign, you can just refuse, the other party is violent Forcing overtime or further contact behavior violates the law and will naturally go through legal procedures. But in fact, I have the impression that some developed countries make it a crime to force overtime with fierce deterrence, or sexual harassment that is not rejected. I am a little puzzled to tell the truth, although I also hate non-violent and non-verbal bullying behaviors in the workplace. Things like taking advantage of your position to wear small shoes for you, and attacking your work completion rather than your person, but you still have to be clear that you have the right to choose, and leave if it's a big deal.
I discussed the issue of mia with people outside the wall before, and the result was basically the same. The film party did not break the law and did not take into account her feelings. The education system is seriously insufficient in discussing and learning about these psychological, legal, and liberal issues. As a result, a society is like a flock of sheep entering the tiger's mouth, and tragedies are staged year after year. As a digression, the discussion at that time was that with regard to education, students should be more free to choose the subjects they want to study. In addition to basic Chinese and mathematics, law, psychology, health care, economics, etc. should be added, which are closely related to the interests of students. The actual subjects of the study, so that history, geography, politics, chemistry, and biology can be divided into more basic knowledge and advanced content. For the major you want to be admitted to, you only need to study the advanced content of the corresponding subject and take the joint entrance examination. For example, if you want to study architectural design, then you need to study Chinese 123456, Mathematics 12345678, Physics 12, Practical Physics 13, Chemistry 1, Geography 123, Law 12, Psychology 12, and you can completely ignore the rest. Of course, this is a victory for liberalism.
The obedience experiment should be simulated and discussed in schools as a very important lesson. This experiment has a deep space for discussion on law, psychology, and liberalism, so at least for school bullying, especially the oppressed and accomplices, It is very helpful, which is closely related to their interests and ensures that the children learn with relish.
The book "Obey to Authority" itself is also very good and highly recommended. It is guaranteed that you will feel numb throughout the whole process of reading, especially if the experimental conditions are changed, the data will go away a little bit, or the description of some individuals, I A few years ago, the biggest impression of this book was the word "exciting".
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