How does the system of cyberpunk relate to the very limited thing of robots?

Darby 2022-03-20 09:01:35

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av48317553?t=1741

This article is a small answer written by a user of a B station.

I watched the up video and answered my long-standing question about the spiritual core of cyberpunk, so I tried to answer the landlord's question:

1. How does the system of cyberpunk relate to the very limiting thing of robots?

According to Wiener's book "The Usefulness of Human Beings", Wiener wanted to emphasize the absurdity of cybernetics itself trying to act on man himself. He believed that man has creativity and initiative that ants cannot have, so he implemented cybernetics in A specific person is a kind of destruction of human nature, as well as the inhibition and regression of the further development of social productive forces.

This kind of thinking explains why cyberpunk works are so persistent in describing the so-called high-tech low-life scene. In this worldview, what cyberpunk wants to present is the kind of use by a certain class of human beings that Wiener opposes. The result of cybernetics controlling other classes. This result is that on the one hand some people can use technology to do whatever they want across any ethical restrictions, and on the other hand, some people are highly exploited by the labor force, and their personal value cannot be improved in any way. The various cyborgs, humanoid robots, and artificial intelligences of Beau Punkri's work are abstractions of cybernetics, they are created by humans, but they are often not controlled by humans. Or We are actually one with them (the prosthetic people), but we artificially think that pure human beings are superior to them. Some of them have been mechanized and managed with dehumanization, and some of them have abused their power excessively to do whatever they want).

In addition, I think the definition of a robot in the cyberpunk style is not necessarily the same as in other earlier sci-fi literature or movies. Cyberpunk emphasizes robots more, or cyborgs here (to a certain extent, it is actually righteousness). humanoids), prosthetics and the human-like nature of artificial intelligence (they are cybernetic products that go wrong, create self-awareness, and bewilder the line between the two when compared to the privileged (e.g. Blade Runner). ”), and “My body is prostheticized, so am I still human?” in “Ghost in the Shell”) These discussions actually revolve around the same question:” If we assume that one day we use technological means Can we control the physical level, especially the various biological control of our own body, can we control our spiritual level with this? Or is it uncontrollable?” Of course, cyberpunk works tend to be backward By.

ps: If there is a misunderstanding, it must be because I haven't finished Wiener's book.

Bought the book and read it.

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Extended Reading
  • Tianna 2022-03-21 09:01:42

    ①Opened the extension of the theme of virtual personality on the Internet, which was very valuable in the 1990s ②Thermal optical camouflage, the prototype of the invisibility cloak ③Replication cannot bring progress, only the way of life evolution through genetic variation ④ "Puppet Ballad" has an exotic flavor ⑤Intelligence Sooner or later, the transformation of the human body will move from science fiction to reality, and the Attack in the Shell series is still forward-looking.

  • Tianna 2022-04-23 07:01:44

    Well-deserved reputation, Oshii Shou Niu. Similar to Blade Runner, but a whole other story, and a different way of thinking. 2020.09.15 The first screen experience of indescribable clarity, as if feeling the vastness of the ocean of information with Major, and empathizing with the melancholy caused by the philosophical exploration of self and consciousness. beyond words. Neon Genesis Paragon Liede igc

Ghost in the Shell quotes

  • Puppet Master: We have been subordinate to our limitations until now. The time has come to cast aside these bonds and to elevate our consciousness to a higher plane. It is time to become a part of all things.

  • Major Motoko Kusanagi: There are countless ingredients that make up the human body and mind, like all the components that make up me as an individual with my own personality. Sure I have a face and voice to distinguish myself from others, but my thoughts and memories are unique only to me, and I carry a sense of my own destiny. Each of those things are just a small part of it. I collect information to use in my own way. All of that blends to create a mixture that forms me and gives rise to my conscience. I feel confined, only free to expand myself within boundaries.