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Hello everyone, welcome everyone to the 7th day of the 22nd Faroe Island Film Festival's main competition round table, the second game, I am the host fruit tree, the second film we are discussing is "The Birdkeeper of Alcatraz" ", all the guests are invited to discuss the reasons for scoring this score based on their own magazines, and briefly talk about their feelings about this movie!
On-site guest Ou Yin
I gave "The Birdkeeper of Alcatraz" 3 stars. In addition to being neat, it still has multiple meanings in its connotation. It is difficult for us to summarize the full meaning of the film in just a few words. What it presents is actually the richness of life. comprehension. All aspects of the film are well done, and there is only one point in the text that I feel needs to be re-explored. As an audience, I will be curious about the ending of characters other than the protagonist, such as mothers, inmates, and birds. The biggest reason for not giving five stars is that the film lacks moment, whether it is audio-visual, text or performance. Excellent but not great.
The guests of the field magazine
I'm a 3 too, I think it's mostly the narrative pace that's comfortable, especially after watching a lot of other movies (which isn't). Its three-act play is well-structured and the protagonist's performance is superb. Here, what makes it different from other Peugeot Hollywood films (such as To Kill a Mockingbird, which was not nominated for the Oscars in Faroe Island in the same year) is that there are many Frankheimer's unique and bold use of the camera. Amazed it can do a lot of scheduling in that small room while still looking good.
Field magazine guest aof
I gave 3 stars to The Birdkeeper of Alcatraz. The small space and simple relationship between characters convey such profound truth. We can see step by step how Troud emerges from the Oedipus complex. From a moody criminal to a well-mannered, free-thinking bird expert.
Guest of the Field Magazine Orange
3 stars. I feel that the male protagonist's temperament, which is both good and evil, is mainly propped up by the whole film. The changes in the male protagonist's mood are also ambiguous. Although there are several changes in temperament, the inner paranoia is consistent. The main reason why this kind of biographical prison film is so eye-catching is that the male protagonist has never and never thought about escaping from the prison in some extreme way from beginning to end. Escape does not bring dignity nor Not against the rules. The flock of birds is the habitat of his soul, where every bird has its own dignity, and every inch of his cage is far greater than the world. Discipline, whether in prison or in education, will only be tasteless.
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It seems that everyone's ratings for this film are very consistent. It seems that everyone thinks this is a good movie, but not very good. So let's start with the shortcomings of the film. In fact, we often feel that all aspects of the film are online, but it is almost tasteless. For you, what is the finishing touch that this film lacks? Woolen cloth?
On-site guest Ou Yin
In terms of the plot, although there is a lot of content in two and a half hours, there are no particularly impressive details. In terms of expression, there is breadth and depth, but the respect for life seems to be too familiar, and it is impossible to develop cognition. Audiovisually is very stable, and there is nothing refreshing. So that's how it feels in general.
Field magazine guest aof
After the protagonist finds his own life, especially after the prison transfer, the whole character image has not changed much, but after the prison transfer, there is still a lot of space.
The guests of the field magazine
I think the director is not too bold, because I have seen his "Second Life" before, and I feel that the two films are completely different. This one has become very "safe" and stable, a little different from the publicity I imagined, and I don't think there is a breakthrough. In addition, I feel a little bit detached from the fact that he loves birds very much and has a lot of expressions of freedom, but he wants to build caged birds.
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In my opinion, however, one of the themes of this film is transformation. When the camera focuses on a special character like the protagonist, we as the audience seem to be looking forward to what kind of transformation it will seek in this limited space and interpersonal relationship. So, is the "lack of change" generally considered by the guests the biggest deduction point for the whole film? At this point, where should the film be optimized first? play? Audiovisual?
The guests of the field magazine
Audio-visual, I was impressed by the long shot of the broken shell (it seems to be cut in the middle). Others just feel like you're getting the job done.
On-site guest Ou Yin
I also think it's audio-visual, and I feel that the play doesn't have much room for optimization.
Guest of the Field Magazine Orange
I think more descriptions should be given to the warden and guards, but the context is focused on the life development and character changes of the male protagonist. I always feel that the film lacks support for the discussion of the theme between prison and freedom. Moreover, the motives of the characters of the mother, wife and prison guard are quite ambiguous.
Field magazine guest aof
There is actually more room for improvement in the play. I think after being transferred to the new prison, what I can remember is the debate between him and the warden, and then I don't really remember much. And it would be better if the previous Oedipus complex described its relationship with the mother more clearly.
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As Feng Lin said, the completion of the whole film is very "safe". We can also see many standard shooting methods in Hollywood at that time, but if the play has no room for optimization, the main problem of the whole film is the protagonist. Given the lack of surprises, can it be understood that the entire film is inherently inadequate? In such a situation, how far can audio-visual take us?
The guests of the field magazine
Yes, although the point of view seems to be closely related to the male protagonist, but for other characters, it seems that they are arranged and arranged.
Guest of the Field Magazine Orange
Yes, this mother issue is vague and general.
The guests of the field magazine
There is a congenital deficiency, because I think I should have guessed that this is probably an inspirational biopic type before watching it. This way of moving is already very genre, and I think it can be done to echo other movies or routines of the same genre. I would like it more. As for the audio-visual, I think it is difficult for the audio-visual to go far, because the space is just that room, the script seems to have been determined, and there is not much room for the audio-visual. Because I don't think it would be a good choice to shoot this subject very experimentally.
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Indeed, it is difficult for me to imagine how this film would look if it were very stylized in terms of audio and visual.
Field magazine guest aof
Yes, it seems that there are enough choices of shots in a limited space, at least it doesn't feel like he is in a very closed space in "Single Prison".
host fruit tree
Does that mean that the creator did choose a processing method that is most suitable for this film.
The guests of the field magazine
I think it's a good answer even if it's not the best solution, so I didn't give a low score haha.
On-site guest Ou Yin
There are congenital deficiencies, it is not easy to make a traumatic adaptation in the play, the story and characters are framed relatively tightly, it is difficult to say how much the audio-visual improvement can be improved, and it really cannot solve the problem of the script and characters.
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Then we can talk a little bit more about the innate deficiencies of the play first. Just now, Orange mentioned the handling of the male protagonist and the rest of the surrounding characters. Do other guests have any views on this issue? Did the prison guards, mother and wife, etc. as Luye really play a sufficient role in the film?
Field magazine guest aof
is sufficient. But the problem is that in the interaction between the protagonist and the various characters, we do not know what kind of relationship they have. For example, his mother, who was so sensitive to the topic of mother when he first entered prison, what is his relationship with his mother? We have no way of knowing. Including his relationship with his wife, we can't get moved by his interaction with these green leaves.
The guests of the field magazine
Since the film starts with a writer's introduction to the protagonist, what I understand is that the whole film, at least up front, has always been the writer's perspective of the protagonist. So from this starting point, the lack of motivation of the supporting characters and other requirements from God's perspective is completely understandable, and if we focus on the protagonist's influence on himself, I think it is successful.
On-site guest Ou Yin
The surrounding characters are all clicked and play a certain role, but there is a feeling of throwing it away. The main creator does not seem to care whether the surrounding characters have a complete story line, and only focuses on the protagonist. In fact, the layout is limited. But on the other hand, thinking that the film is already relatively long, I doubt whether the director's control is enough to really improve the quality of the film after enriching the surrounding characters.
The guests of the field magazine
Of course, this movie also has some problems with unclear perspectives. For example, when the mother leaves the prison and returns home, the hero is not present. We can only understand it as the scene imagined by the writer (the hero's perspective) after seeing the newspaper. The same two prisoners escaped there.
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But just now aof mentioned a very good word, that is moving. In our discussions so far, we have been rationally analyzing the film's pros and cons, but indeed, it seems that the enthusiasm brought by emotion is lacking. As a film that uses personal stories to bring resonance and inspiration, this is indeed a very big problem.
The guests of the field magazine
Haha, I'll start by stating that I'm not an audiovisual or analytical viewer, although these types of movies are not my favorite. But I am grateful for the many films that allow me to meet different characters and learn many perspectives.
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But Feng Lin still scored 3 points, which shows that the basic score of this film is still very high. We talked about drama and audio-visual are both lacking. I want to hear from you guys what do you think is the biggest highlight of the whole film?
Assistant host Midnight no one
I actually think his interest in birds is a coincidence. His own personality is that he can survive in that kind of environment. There would be other things without birds. I really liked the way he was calm and relaxed after the prison riot. He himself is a person with a very fulfilling inner world, and such a person will not be bound by the environment.
Field magazine guest aof
The biggest highlight is that I clicked the photo of my mother, and the whole character image changed directly.
The guests of the field magazine
What I liked the most was when he was taught by that jailer, and finally had a little personality change, which made me think how good it is to be interested. It's like if a jailer shows me a movie in a prison, I'm sure I'll treat him as a friend (what a bad metaphor).
On-site guest Ou Yin
I also prefer the interaction between him and the jailer. Combined with what An Na said, he is a full-hearted person, and his biggest arc is actually brought by the ordinary person, the jailer, and it is not the kind of bitterness or serious hatred. The sermons of things, but some very everyday conversations that might happen, are very powerful in themselves.
Assistant host Midnight no one
I really want to step on "The Shawshank Redemption". In my opinion, "The Shawshank Redemption" has created a "fake strongman". In the end, he is still obsessed with going out and running away. Does the male protagonist of "People" care? And "The Shawshank Redemption" is even more greedy to confuse the identity of "criminal", "The Birdman of Alcatraz" really doesn't care about that. From this point of view, the later films are backwards compared to it.
The guests of the field magazine
Indeed, this "freedom" is more advanced.
Assistant host Midnight no one
I just wanted to cue the scene of the prison riot, and I feel that Oliver Stone should have seen it. It's a bit like this in "Born to Kill".
The guests of the field magazine
I think the freedom in the film comes from a kind of understanding and curiosity from the inside out. When the protagonist discovers the bird, he is awakened not only to find something to do in simple boredom. And when the bird broke its shell, a touch of life slowly made him curious about the world; once again when he put his bird back into nature, it flew back to the prison and died. He treated himself ( relationship with his mother) had a second look, and a third time when he returned to Alcatelz to see his former inmates and he had a new understanding of freedom and prison. I think the rhythm of this gradual transition is very good, one movie is worth three.
Guest of the Field Magazine Orange
I think that he gradually reached a reconciliation with himself and life through encountering various people and things in prison life. Both inner freedom and physical freedom are hallucinations. There is always a nested relationship between people and social rules. Breaking this nested relationship is the real so-called freedom. So at the moment when the male protagonist really gives up his freedom, it is instead that he breaks the discipline and achieves freedom.
The guests of the field magazine
I didn't think much of it until the point of view of the film that came to my mind when you talked about the supporting roles. Others, I think that after watching the movie, the feeling is much better, and the feeling just after watching it is very comfortable.
Field magazine guest aof
After chatting, I thought that the relationship between the characters does not seem to be so reliable, and the relationship has not been extended to a deeper level in a limited space. And to express the theme is to rely on two paragraphs of preaching. But the good thing is that the arcs of the characters are presented well.
On-site guest Ou Yin
After listening to everyone's sharing, I have a clearer concept of what the bad breath of the film or the dismantling of many breaths is. For this film, I can gain experience from emotional feeling or rational analysis.
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