logic about history

Dayana 2022-04-03 08:01:01

Some people say that history is a little girl, and let future generations dress up; so what is the truth of history becomes the world's always a little question: is it true?

Yes, we need to look at the opinions of others dialectically, even if the other party is an authority; but we cannot doubt everything and deny everything; after all, most of them are facts.

If the other party is just to satisfy his own cleverness, for example: How do you know that the Americans have gone to the moon? I'm really speechless, but I don't need to argue with the other side either, because it doesn't matter to me whether it's ordinary or not. I remain silent, but I secretly choose to trust authority over ordinary "little smarts."

But for a person who is an authority (or potential authority) in itself, can he succumb to pressure or his own ego and make history? Then look at his character, such as Owen in this movie, such as the historians of some former emperors in history!

"Logic", the back and forth between the lawyers on both sides of this movie is the PK of intelligence. Many times the devil is more cunning than the wise man. In fact, it is very difficult for the judge, because the logic of the devil is also normal logic! Therefore, the logic of the judge is required to be fair. Looking at it, my feeling is that the defense's logic has found the fault of Owen's logic, and it is also clever, but at this time he can't justify himself, but he still doesn't think he is wrong, but he admits that he lost the lawsuit (also the last sentence of the judge’s last question).

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Extended Reading
  • Diego 2022-04-06 09:01:07

    Some are beyond expectations. One is that the British legal system originally "needed Deborah to provide evidence that the Holocaust actually happened", but the team of lawyers changed their strategy to prove that "Owen was an anti-Semitic". I love that the lawyer team separates "whether there was a Holocaust" from the success of this defense. The second point is the justice's last paragraph on "freedom of speech": if a person really believes what he thinks and expresses it, should he support it? the answer is negative. Of course, the only shortcoming of the movie is also here. The point of "not all opinions are equal" is not explained logically. Instead, it is boring to start to value.

  • Aryanna 2022-04-06 09:01:07

    "O, i had some damn good lawyers." From a legal point of view, the BBC is really the best courtroom production company in the world. The team of defense lawyers who denied the case are really professional idols. They are neither humble nor arrogant nor impetuous. Even if they drink alcohol, they can calm down. The sollicitor played by Mo Niang and her grandfather barrister are the dream team. Mike is an Easter egg.

Denial quotes

  • Richard Rampton: My lord, during this trial, we have heard from Professor Evans and others of at least 25 major falsifications of history. Well, says Mr. Irving, "all historians make mistakes." But there is a difference between negligence, which is random in its effect, and a deliberateness, which is far more one-sided. All Mr. Irving's little fictions, all his tweaks of the evidence all tend in the same direction: the exculpation of Adolf Hitler. He is, to use an analogy, like the waiter who always gives the wrong change. If he is honest, we may expect sometimes his mistakes to favor the customers, sometimes himself. But Mr. Irving is the dishonest waiter. All his mistakes work in his favor. How far, if at all, Mr. Irving's Antisemitism is the cause of his Hitler apology, or vice versa, is unimportant. Whether they are taken together or individually, it is clear that they have led him to prostitute his reputation as a serious historian in favor of a bogus rehabilitation of Adolf Hitler and the dissemination of virulent Antisemitic propaganda.

  • Sir Charles Gray: Yes, this is a question I have to ask you, Mr. Rampton.

    Richard Rampton: Yes, by all means, my lord.

    Sir Charles Gray: My question is this: If somebody is antisemitic, antisemitic and extremist, he is perfectly capable of being honestly antisemitic, yes? He's holding those views and expressing those views because they are indeed his views.

    Richard Rampton: Well, yes.

    Sir Charles Gray: And so it seems to me, if it comes down to it, that the antisemitism is a completely separate allegation and has precious little bearing on your broader charge that he has manipulated the data?

    Richard Rampton: No, no, my lord. The whole endeavor of the defense has been to prove that the two are connected.

    Sir Charles Gray: But he might believe what he is saying. That is the point. That is why it is so important.

    Richard Rampton: My lord, if we know that Mr. Irving is an anti-Semite, and if we know there is no historical justification for Holocaust denial, then surely it is no great stretch to see that the two are connected.

    Sir Charles Gray: Yes. Thank you. Carry on.

    Deborah Lipstadt: What the fuck just happened? Anthony, what just happened?