Process justice or result justice?

Linnea 2022-03-22 09:01:09

Case 1
If a tyrant who cares about mankind, his purpose is to make mankind live better/save mankind, and most people do not have his long-term vision. In order to achieve his goal of saving mankind, he has the ability and resorted to violent means, including killing some good people who are kind and upright but will hinder him, thus harming human beings and destroying them. The process is not completely justice/beautiful, but the result (in the long run) is for human justice/beauty. Should this be done?

Case 2
What if the above-mentioned Case 1 tyrant's long-term vision is changed to "He thinks he has a long-term vision"?

Case 3
encounters a wicked leader who is dying on the road. If he doesn't save him, he will die. Save him, assuming that he will do eleven heinous things in the future (such as blowing up the elementary school and killing many children). Saving seems to be the mainstream value-everyone should have human rights; not saving is predicting that he will do worse things in the future. But if it is not saved, even with this kind of prediction, would a good person think that in case he will be probated? If he is a person who will correct evil in the future, will his conscience never pass? If it is saved, if this person really did evil as predicted, would he condemn it even more conscientiously-I shouldn't have saved him in the first place, it was I who killed these innocent children?

Case 4
What if the case 3 mentioned above is changed from "do not save the roadside dying" to "have a chance to kill a healthy person"?


Fortunately, we don't have a predictive function, we only have to weigh the possibility of various things happening. But this is also similar to a prophecy-watching thousands of movies on the discussion of prophecy, some can change, some get worse, and some efforts to change the future have prompted this kind of future to happen, and everything It is a possibility, or it may be destined like a possibility.
And if you confirm that you don't have the superpower to predict, then do the things in front of you, and don't force your conscience to shackle your conscience for what might happen in the future? But it may not be so easy to do.


What is the meaning of life? Probably what you believe. The comfort you have thought about-like Alonzo, change yourself to fight poison with poison, satisfy your desires and punish bad people at the same time; stick to your beliefs, even if you are poor and have no right to enjoy yourself, you have to bear the danger of your life, but insist on inner justice even if you don’t It’s worth it to satisfy your desires—like Jake. But if you have to ask why? Why believe it? When we were young, the education we received was that good is rewarded for evil and evil is rewarded, but when you grow up, if you find that good is not necessarily rewarded for good, and evil is not necessarily rewarded for evil? If the wicked person has a better life than you in terms of material, maybe you are driven to the end because you stick to the kindness and integrity in your heart, then your beliefs may change at this time? Like John, the good man who has been abiding by the law in "On the Brows". Or because some small details/rewards in the process of growing up make kindness and integrity truly become a belief, and in the process of various choices, it will not be easy to question and cannot go against the original intention. Like in this movie, Jake saved his cousin by following the kind thoughts in his heart. Why be a kind person, probably everyone in the world will want/cherish some good things, not only ordinary people/good people, but also most bad people? (Except for the demons that wipe out all good human nature) And this kind of beautiful feelings will empathize, kind thoughts will be passed on, but evil is rarely empathized/transmitted.


Having said that, most people's choices don't include doing bad things and/or having the ability. The choice of daily life is nothing more than getting what you can afford. If you can afford the conscience, have the ability to control, or can afford to pay the price even if you are caught, it is a gamble with positive returns, so just do it if you are willing to do it. If you can't get through the hurdles in your heart, you can live your life with peace of mind.

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Extended Reading
  • Axel 2021-10-20 19:00:33

    The name of this movie is absolutely confusing. It gives the audience a mindset, but under this mindset, the ending is far beyond the audience's expectations. However, this unexpected is not a sudden explosive reveal like a suspense film. In this film, all the development of the plot is gradual. At the end, the audience finds that there is so much difference from the beginning.

  • Jaclyn 2021-10-20 19:00:58

    Screenwriting learning class: to write a script for the characters. Multi-faceted and interesting characters will surely attract big-name actors, and then the movie will be made just around the corner, even if the story itself is a bit unsatisfactory. There are a few scenes where the flaws are obvious, because there are too many words, but Denzel played so well that it can be ignored. Ethan Hawke's weak body is really in line with the setting. Regarding corruption and moral ambiguity.

Training Day quotes

  • Stan Gursky: [in a steakhouse restaurant] Alonzo, heard you had an expensive weekend in Vegas. How did you ever screw up so bad?

    Alonzo: Hey, I didn't know. It's not my town. I'm not omniscient.

    Lou Jacobs: The Russians don't care if you have a badge. They'll whack you. You ought to hop a jet out of here.

    Alonzo: Why? It's an easy fix. I'll just cash in on an account.

    Stan Gursky: Which one?

    Alonzo: One of my old ones, my first one. The guy's a high security risk anyway. If I'm not around, who's gonna help keep him off the radar?

    Stan Gursky: All right, it's your call. I do not want you to dick this up. I don't want to see you on the front page like the rest of those assholes.

  • Jake: [after meeting with the Three Wise Men] How much money was in that bag?

    Alonzo: 40 G's.

    Jake: What was that for?

    Alonzo: You really wanna know?

    Jake: Yeah. I asked, didn't I?

    Alonzo: Nothing's free in this world, Jake. Not even arrest warrants.

    Jake: Shit, I didn't wanna know.