host thousand oaks
Hello everyone, welcome everyone to the 8th day of the 22nd Faroe Island Film Festival's main competition round table, the second session, I am the host Thousand Oaks, and the second session of the film we are discussing is Bresson's "St. "The Trial of Joan of Arc", all guests are invited to give a score based on their own publications, talk about the reasons for this score, and briefly talk about their thoughts on this movie!
Guest of the Field Magazine Orange
2 stars. In Bresson's The Trial of Joan of Arc, Joan of Arc is given more humanity, and the choice of voiceover and several perspectives is interesting. However, this extremely natural and primitive way of performing makes the characters seem like machines for reciting lines, and the final destination is still the torture of human nature, but it is less powerful.
Souvenir guests wind Pro
I give 1 star, this is the last one I watched this year. The most obvious feeling I feel is that it is different from the feeling of appreciating and looking forward to walking together in the picture frame in Pickpocket and Bassat the Donkey, but a kind of staring outside the picture frame or a pair of hands Like stroking a painting, it's further minimal. However, due to my shallow understanding of the history of Joan of Arc, it is difficult to see what the content is.
guest donnie
The Judgment of Joan of Arc 2 stars. Really nothing, thank you.
host thousand oaks
There are many movies depicting Joan of Arc throughout history. Among them, Dreyer's "The Passion of Joan of Arc" in 1928 is probably the most famous one. Which version of Joan of Arc do you prefer? Other well-known versions include the 1948 American version of "Joan of Arc" directed by Victor Fleming and starring Ingrid Bergman, and "Joan of Arc: War" directed by Jacques Rivette in 1999. "Joan of Arc" and "Joan of Arc: Prison", the French version of "Joan of Arc" directed by Luc Besson in 1999, and the Canadian version of "Joan of Arc" directed by Christian Dewar in 1999, Bruno Dumont directed Joan of Arc in 2017 and the sequel Joan of Arc in 2019.
Assistant host We Min Hee
Dumont's "The Virgin of Arc", because it is fun, the others are too bitter. I haven't watched Rivett's version of Joan of Arc yet.
guest donnie
On the subject of Joan of Arc, Dreyer's method is really touching. First of all, the story of Joan of Arc is about "faith". The heroine chosen by Dreyer made me believe in Joan of Arc's belief.
Souvenir guests wind Pro
I was just about to say, I just watched this time and found out that I had forgotten about Dreyer's part, and I was too vacuous about the image of Joan of Arc and this history. This version of Joan of Arc seems to be more mechanical, and Bresson is more like copying "history" itself than he is shooting Joan of Arc. This is not the same as the one I remember from Ridley.
host thousand oaks
Well, Dreyer used a lot of upside-down shots of Joan of Arc, and that version of her eyes was really charming. This version of Joan of Arc will be more human, and Dreyer's version of Joan of Arc will be closer to God.
Guest of the Field Magazine Orange
I feel that this version of Joan of Arc is still quite emotional, and even deviates from Bresson's ideal of human modeling.
guest donnie
Dreyer made me believe that Bresson made me feel Joan of Arc pure. The look and feel of this casting and scene are very different.
host thousand oaks
The most unique thing about movies is that the text supports the structure of the entire movie. Simple reversal, almost no editing skills are serving the text. Bresson refuses to use sound and text to serve vision, he uses the communication between texts to create new themes. Can text be the most important factor in film?
guest donnie
Through the text, Bresson turned the story of Joan of Arc into a story of guilt.
host thousand oaks
The lens language Bresson can say is almost zero, and a simple front and back can only give the audience a concept that she is talking to him, but Dreyer's lens is much more gorgeous. In short, I think, Bresson: text, Dreyer: picture.
Souvenir guests wind Pro
I think the editing and sound of this one are the most outstanding, especially the editing, which seems to be the simplest front and back fight, but I found that every time Joan of Arc was tried, the background changed slightly. When you cut my sentence back and forth, there is an exciting sense of touching history.
Guest of the Field Magazine Orange
Voiceover is the essence.
Souvenir guests wind Pro
The sound of the collision of many torture instruments, walking and writing and turning over papers appeared in the sound. What impressed me most about the final fire was the hissing sound of the flames.
host thousand oaks
Sorry, I counted the sound as part of the text, but the text should be counted as part of the sound. Then my question can be paraphrase into the introduction of film. It is said that film is a visual art. Do you think that a work can make sound the most important factor?
Souvenir guests wind Pro
While I'm open to various methodologies, I don't seem to have seen a movie where sound is the most important factor, not sure if Jarman's Blue is.
Guest of the Field Magazine Orange
Abbas' "Princess Shirin" can be considered, if "Blue" is.
host thousand oaks
"The Judgment of Joan of Arc" is almost icy cold, and the dialogue that minimizes emotion will enhance the irrationality and inhumanity of desire and sin.
guest donnie
I can understand your question very well. Bresson's films seem to be pure texts, allowing you to feel the power of the text itself. Remove any possibility of sensationalism, remove any visual spectacle. Bresson is like Joan of Arc, and the audience is the person who peeks at Joan of Arc from the key, always wanting to be curious, but encounters Waterloo here in Bresson. does your voice include music
host thousand oaks
Sound in a broad sense should include everything that has sound, but what I really want to point out is the importance of text in sound and the whole film.
guest donnie
Don't need what the care book says, just follow your own understanding.
Souvenir guests wind Pro
If you understand it in this way, it is exactly what I said before. I think the text given by Bresson has a kind of historical estrangement. Gaze, and it is clear that the image he gives is extremely simple. It was in such a look back that a reaction occurred.
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