FIFF22丨DAY1 round table "Flowers Fall and Ying Ting Chun": They share the same illness, one is an orphan of war, the other is an orphan of the world

Dwight 2022-08-28 18:58:37

host midnight no one

Hello everyone, welcome everyone to the first day of the 22nd Faroe Island Film Festival No One Knows the Bulletin Roundtable, I am the host Zi Ye No One, and the first film we are discussing is "Flowers Falling Yingti Ting" "Spring", before the in-depth discussion, please talk about the reasons for scoring this score based on your own magazine, and briefly talk about your thoughts on this movie!

On-site guest A Mawu

2 points, the choice of many scenes is particularly interesting. The first perspective is stepped back, and the third perspective is used to observe, a choice that pulls away from the reality of the movie, allowing the audience to stand on the sidelines and increase the meaning of scrutiny. The transition is also very clever.

Guest Aurora

3 points, although I really can't take this look, but the picture is very comfortable and very characteristic. Even if it is black and white, it can be seen that the director hopes that the picture can be remembered.

Guest Leo

Four stars, two broken souls cuddle each other for warmth, and their emotions always trump unreasonable ethics.

host midnight no one

The first question is to ask you to talk about the environment shaping of the film. Parts such as lake water and fog act as projections of the hero's spiritual world in my opinion. Coupled with the setting of his amnesia, these moldings can make me feel this.

On-site guest A Mawu

Densely hazy. A ptsd, a non-personnel, is an emotional connection that takes place in an imaginary space. Away from the daily environment, the space is reshaped.

Guest Leo

I don't think about it that much, I think these environments are always trying to create a tragic atmosphere. I even feel that these relatively hazy framing are constantly blurring the male protagonist's judgment of reality and illusion. It is to let him continue to indulge in this kind of emotional relationship that the world can never understand.

Guest Aurora

Such an intentional picture should also have an expressive purpose, although I think it might as well be simpler.

Guest Leo

The first instinct is that it is beautiful.

Moderator midnight no one

It's really beautiful.

Guest Aurora

The description of the environment is nothing more than foreshadowing the plot, setting off the atmosphere, and reflecting emotions. It's really beautiful.

host midnight no one

The second question is, what do you think of the relationship between the two characters, the hero and the girl? To a certain extent, they are sympathetic to each other, one is an orphan of war, the other is an orphan of the world.

Guest Leo

I think this kind of emotion built on the premise that both parties are flawed is, to a certain extent, a process of constantly asking each other to heal themselves. Really not love.

Guest Aurora

It's easy to be compared to Lolita, but it reminds me of Bai Yexing, Xue Sui and Ryoji, who need each other. In addition, I deeply feel that emotion is not about age but about experience. The whole movie is romantic and beautiful, but it doesn't really look like "love".

On-site guest A Mawu

I feel like the girlfriends of the male protagonists can understand them at the end. But the hero has been killed. Instead, everyone is judging.

Moderator midnight no one

In fact, there is one point that bothers me more. Does this feeling of not love come from the director setting too much moral insurance in the shaping of the relationship between the two of them. Avoid the possibility that they can develop in a more "off-limits" direction. Including your girlfriend can understand.

On-site guest A Mawu

Yes, it seems that there is no desire to discuss in the direction of the restricted area. I am uncomfortable with the people who don't care about bystanders fanning the flames.

Guest Aurora

Not only is it moral insurance, the feeling presented by the image is not in that direction at all. I like the coherence of the film itself.

Moderator midnight no one

Then suppose that if you really write in the direction of the emotions of men and women, will it affect your views on the film?

Guest Aurora

perhaps? Feel a little vulgar?

On-site guest A Mawu

They haven't done anything out of bounds.

Moderator midnight no one

No, I'm assuming that if you became Lolita, would you feel "deteriorated"?

On-site guest A Mawu

It's so vain. There is no room for some unconventional feelings in this world, and it is very hard.

Guest Aurora

It's hard to make that assumption, because our perceptions and feelings about movies are limited by the movies, and by ourselves. At least for me, film is not only an art that needs to be learned, but also a way to communicate with the world in different dimensions.

host midnight no one

The third question is, I want to ask everyone's opinion on the ending, especially the girl's sentence "I will be anonymous from now on".

Guest Aurora

Frankly speaking, I didn't feel so deeply about the last sentence. I didn't expect it to be the starting point. Let me think about it.

On-site guest A Mawu

It's just that no one cares about her. Dad doesn't want her anymore. Big brother and brother don't want her anymore. They can only grow up in a monastery, and no one calls me by your name.

Moderator midnight no one

In fact, I think the male protagonist has died spiritually after the war, and the misunderstood interaction between him and the girl makes him not even physically in the world. This kind of shattering was finally passed on from him to the girl, which was a fatally tragic loop.

Guest Aurora

When it comes to fatalistic tragic loops, I think call me by your name ("Please call me by your name") makes me feel more fatalistic tragic loops.

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