(Updated) Straighten out the mcu time concept based on the first episode and related past plots

Adela 2022-03-15 09:01:03

The typing on the mobile phone is all based on memory. I didn't go back to check it. If there is any mistake, please correct me.

The first episode aired yesterday, and I watched the comment area. The controversy mainly focused on two points: one is why the time travel of the Avengers was recognized by tva as an established fact and did not interfere, and the second is that gems are used as paperweights in tva, which is against the past Blasphemy of the character.

Conclusion first: The MCU main timeline is the timeline after the US team's crossing intervention.

I pushed the sand table in my mind for a long time, only this one explanation can make everything make sense.

Review the settings first.

According to the content of Avengers 4, the timeline can be divided into two types: the macro dimension and the personal dimension. The timelines of the two dimensions flow in one direction, that is, what has already happened cannot be changed. After crossing back and then making changes, a new timeline is created.

However, the two timelines do not necessarily overlap. The later time points on the timeline of the personal dimension may be at an earlier time point in the macro-dimensional dimension due to time travel. The time point of the upper body is after the US team in the 2012 main timeline.

The same person at the same time point in the same macro-dimension may appear on his personal timeline at different points in time, and this has been played out several times. For example, the 2023 Nebula directly killed the 2014 Nebula, the 2023 American team and the 2012 American team fought and so on.

After finishing the settings, let’s look at the main timeline. In a flashback in Ant-Man 1, Hank Pym once accused Howard Stark of stealing his Pym particles, which was the trigger for their parting ways and Hank Pym's departure from S.H.I.E.L.D. Without Hank Pym leaving S.H.I.E.L.D., there would be no plot of Ant-Man 12, and there would be no rats in Avengers 4 who inadvertently rescued Scott Lang, and then Scott Lang introduced the quantum realm to Avengers, etc. a series of plots.

And Captain America's crossing and stealing Pym particles make the whole story a closed loop. That is to say, if Captain America does not travel back, all the following stories will not happen.

In addition, the American team's crossing also explained a small easter egg in Iron Man 2: How can there be a mold of the American team's shield in Iron Man's basement? If I remember correctly, the main storyline of Captain America 1 took place in the European battlefield, and Howard Stark's shield should also be in Europe. If the mold is worth taking back to America, shouldn't it be in a museum? Why just leave it in the basement (that is, Stark's workshop)?

If you add the American team's crossing into it, it will be explained. Captain America returned to 1970 to live with Peggy Carter, and it was impossible to hide in the house and not see anyone; if he used a fake identity, he could deceive the people around him, but he couldn't deceive Howard, who was also a colleague of S.H.I.E.L.D. Probably Howard made another shield for the US team, so the extra shield at the end of Avengers 4 can be explained.

After talking about the previous plot, now go back to the first episode of Loki's personal drama. Since the main MCU timeline can be closed into a closed loop, and everyone completes their own destiny in ignorance, then there is no problem of destroying the sacred timeline. That's why tva doesn't intervene.

As for the second question, it is easy to explain. Doctor Strange has seen 150 billion possible endings, and only one ending is on the sacred timeline. After the other possibilities occur, TVA will definitely come out to intervene. The time fork was cut, the people disappeared, but the gems remained, and, in theory, there could be 150 billion sets of gems.

The staff of tva are all created by time guardians. According to Casey, he has been sitting at this table since he was born, and he does not even know what a fish is. In other words, "value" is meaningless in TVA. The setting of tva is that magic cannot be used, and the actual effect of gems is not. Can't it just be used as a paperweight?

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After reading some discussions in the group, I figured out something to add.

Everyone knows Schrödinger's cat in quantum mechanics. The cat is locked in a radioactive box in a superposition of life and death. Only the moment the box is opened, it can collapse into one of the realities. However, the physics community feels that the addition of human observations is very unscientific, so there is the hypothesis of a parallel universe. A popular saying is that a choice will split into two different parallel universes. The same person in the two universes should actually be counted as two almost identical people, with different fates from the moment of splitting.

This setting is used in Avengers 4, which can be seen from the 2023 Nebula killing the 2014 Nebula.

According to this setting, when a character travels away, it creates a time fork. In fact, there is still a person who has not traveled through. That's why the escaped Loki is called a variant.

Now look back: tva should hunt down the person whose "personal timeline" has forked, and eliminate the variant that does not belong to the sacred timeline.

Because of the closed loop mentioned above, there is no fork in Team America's personal timeline.

A group of horses brought by Thanos turned into ashes in the sacred timeline, and Nebula was killed by himself in the main timeline, which means that the timeline was automatically closed, and TVA was not needed.

It's just that Captain America's crossing has inevitably resulted in the fact that there is one more Loki, so this Loki must be eliminated.

In addition, according to this logic, 2014 Gamora should also be the target of TVA hunting, and how to play it depends on Silver Guardian 3.

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Extended Reading
  • Wilfrid 2022-04-24 07:01:05

    The last episode was so dragging, I was sleepwalking the whole episode

  • Mina 2022-03-25 09:01:06

    It's really disgusting to watch the last episode. I wasted so much time to pave the way for later projects. At least Wanda Vision next door has a complete plot and character curve. This is really disgusting.

Loki quotes

  • [In a presidential suit]

    Loki: Oh, come on! What did you expect?

  • Loki: You're taking me somewhere to kill me?

    Mobius: No, I'm taking you some place to talk.

    Loki: Well, I don't like to talk.

    Mobius: But you do like to lie. Which you just did, 'cause we both know you love to talk.