*Writing it out is just to help me sort out the logic and communicate with my friends.*
First of all, this is really not a movie that the general public likes to see.
Halfway through the movie, the couple sitting in front of me left the scene, and the right side, reluctant to leave, yawned loudly all the time. The screen went white and black, and it ended so openly, and my mouth quickly complained, pit!
But in fact, if you think about it carefully, the praise of Rotten Tomatoes is not unreasonable.
Like all science fiction films, movies are composed of two parts: logic and story. Logic is the basic setting of time travel in the movie, and the story is the character, emotion, and behavior motivation of the character.
Not all movies under the banner of science fiction movies pay attention to logic. For example, Jumper, the core is a love story, just wear a sci-fi scarf, and the bugs with eyes full of fear are just fine. The core of this movie is obviously science fiction, and the premises on the philosophical world view of love, family, etc. established on its basis are all strict cores.
So when understanding the plot, first assume that there are no bugs logically, and everything will have a reasonable explanation.
Secondly, put aside the controversy in the North American version: After reading the introduction about the deleted part, I feel that the deleted part does affect the audience's understanding of the depth of the character, the relationship between the characters, and the emotional part, but a rough understanding of logic does not seem to cause harm. So let’s treat it as harmless
for the time being ~~~ As a former science fiction fan, inaccurately remembering some common theories about time travel can be used to understand this movie.
*parallel world. This theory believes that when people make a certain degree of change, the world will be divided. The source code describes this. In one world, the train explodes, and the destruction in the other world is prematurely thwarted. And if a time traveler goes back to the past and changes an event, it will also split the world.
* The paradox of grandmother. This paradox is based on the fact that the world is linear and will not be divided by events, so if you go back to the past and kill your grandmother, you will only cause your own disappearance, and will not lead to the creation of another world. This creates a paradox. s. In the movie, young Joe’s suicide led to the disappearance of old Joe, and young joe’s suicide was due to the behavior of old joe. This forms a paradox in the linear world, but the set loop can explain this problem.
* Self-correction ability of time and space. This theory is contrary to the butterfly effect. It is believed that a person’s behavior will not affect the major changes in time and space. You sneak back to kill Hitler before World War II, and return to your time and space to find that World War II still happened, but the head of state has become another. one person. I am desperate to think of a sentence in the high school politics book: It is not heroes who create history, but history creates heroes...It is about this view of time and space ==.
Let me talk about the world view of this film seriously.
First of all, this is not a parallel world that everyone loves to see. The parallel world should have no influence between the world and the world, and the first case of the failure of the ring clearly shows that everything that young has experienced has an impact on the old in the same ring, which is definitely a single world. Young and old are the same person, and the progressive tense of young is the past tense of old, and because of unreasonable closed-loop failure, this past tense cannot be expected, but appears on old with young’s ing. For example, what young joe experienced in this ring, with a gun on his leg, and finding a young rainmaker, will change the memory of old.
That is to say, old can perceive young's behavior at all times. This perception is not as clear as shared thinking, but is realized by changing memory. Old has no ability to predict young's behavior, because it will only be formed if young's behavior is implemented. old memories.
As the name suggests, this is a ring world. At least for these killers, the 30 years from the young killing old to the old being thrown back to 2044 to seal the ring is a cyclical process.
I think of Liu Gongzi’s "Prisoner for a Day". The protagonist is imprisoned for 24 hours on a certain day. No matter what changes he makes, he changes his dialogue with others, breaks street lights, ran into the field and returned after 0:00. Automatically return to the day of imprisonment.
On the other hand, the movie actually imprisoned these killers for 30 years. The moment when young shoots and kills old is both the beginning and the end of the 30-year circle.
Three kinds of rings appeared in the movie.
The first is that young joe successfully shot old and lived for 30 years, and then he was obediently sealed to complete a closed loop. In theory, once young shot old, Joe formed his own independent closed loop. In the world, every time you experience this ring, you don’t need to have the same experience. Maybe the joe of this ring went to Paris, the joe of the next ring went to London, and the joe of the next ring went to China. In short, as long as the term expires in 30 years Successfully complete the closed loop, you can do whatever you want for 30 years............ This kind of closed loop movie is not shown, but it is conceivable that there have been countless reincarnations before the unsuccessful closed loop shown in the movie.
This brings up a question, what about Joe’s influence on the outside world during each round of reincarnation? For example, in this ring, he gave birth to a baby with a woman, and in the next ring, he stirred up with a man. After he looped back, what should this woman, baby, and men do? Combined with the theory that young’s behavior will change old’s memory and body, as well as the self-correction ability of time and space, perhaps it can be explained that every time Joes come back in a circle, the behavior will change the future 30 years later, just like Word's rewriting function, or tapes that are repeatedly recorded, automatically clean and cover up the previous traces when new content is entered. <==== The above is not rigorously guessing that the
second ring is the reincarnation with Xu Qing. Old joe is because of his wife. His death decided to go back and kill rainmaker to change the world.
This brings about the third kind of ring shown in the movie. Old joe created rainmaker's first class [Shooting set hello]. Young joe chose to commit suicide in order to prevent all of this. This suicide ended the endless loop, and there is no such looper named Joe in the world.
The problem here is that it seems that the action of old joe in the third ring led to the rainmaker in the second ring. This is unscientific!
But in fact, this is exactly the worldview that the movie wants to convey to the audience: no matter what you do, you can't change the world, only you.
Joe killed old smoothly and spent a lot of time enjoying life. He almost gave birth to a baby when he met Xu Qing, bang! Rainmaker exists in this ring.
Joe flees back hard, breaking the seal, killing the kid and fucking, bang! Rainmaker has risen.
Young Joe got out of bed with the kid's mother, and couldn't bear to watch old kill the kid's mother, creating a big devil, bang! Killed himself, the child and his mother embraced warmly. This bear kid accidentally yelled his mother once, and finally emerged as a generation of Rainmaker.
Or, the child and his mother embrace each other warmly, and under careful training, the bear child has become a good person who is suitable for the house, the country and the people. boom! Guess, does Rainmaker still exist?
My answer is still there.
[Small divergence, do you really think that baby is the future Rainmaker? Why, because he possesses Magneto [Continue to play the set]? Because he is one of three children [Harry Potter's sense of sight], because his small face was broken and the legendary Rainmaker has a man-made chin? The drawing is broken, rainmaker, rainmaker, how can this baby make rain! 】<==== The above is a serious complaint, but the meaning is serious.
Maybe he is, maybe he is not, yes or no, kill or not, rainmaker is there, waiting for the looper in every ring and all rings in the future.
[Hey, unknowingly, it turned into a spitting wind... As expected, the illusion is unsustainable = =]
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