A Brief Talk on TDKR's Characters and the Rhythm of the Story

Trycia 2022-03-20 09:01:07

TDKR's role and story rhythm is a simple

statement. I am a movie fan, not a comic fan. This article will be written from a purely viewing perspective and does not involve deeper cultural/political/religious analysis.

According to the length of appearance, the third part can be said to have three male protagonists: Bruce Wayne/John Black/Bain, and there are two female protagonists: Serena/Miranda (Talia)


Bruce Wayne:
When I first brushed it, the biggest feeling he gave me was that this character has "nothing to say". He was decadent, because Gotan didn’t need Batman, and he died of his lover. He cheered up because he wanted to save Gotan again (and if possible, he would die by the way). Bain beat him to death and threatened to explode Gotan. He got up again because of anger-in fact, we already knew this in our hearts, and the only thing we didn't know was that he would find his true second spring. If it is said that the master is "turning fear into anger and making anger into strength", and the key to this is reflected in the regeneration pool, I think there is a lack of subtlety in the emotional transformation of the characters, that is to say, the lack of details, at least I feel very indifferent. I have to mention that the regeneration pool where the master is and the regeneration pool mentioned by Bain do not make me feel the same. Afu said that Bain is "Born and raised in a hell on earth."


Bain & Thalia: I
personally think that these two characters are simply the biggest noise in the film.
Bain's appearance is impressive-difficult hijacking, bunker lines, and the little brother who looks at him with a idiot. He is violent and vigorous, and he has full cohesion. Whether it is his impassioned and inciting speech, or breaking Batman's back in the dark, he is very versatile, but also because of this lethal villain style that makes the audience. He was full of expectations for how he was killed by Batman at the end, but I don’t think anyone would have thought that his ending would be the end of Catwoman who was suddenly killed, and Talia suddenly showed a fierce look-it turns out she was It's the big boss. Therefore, if Baine is stripped of everything that Baine has done, it is actually a god-washing. In order to protect the pure Thalia, he becomes the guardian of Thalia, and then completely becomes a chess piece, so in fact it seems to be extremely cruel. What he did was just to give his lover a pure world. When I brushed it, I felt I was about to break down when I saw Bain's tears, and there was a remnant of my fuck on my lips. And when I watched it for the second time, I felt a little comforted, because in fact, the seed of Thalia had already been planted. Obviously, because of her, Baine would know where Bruce’s arsenal is. , Black's actions will be betrayed. However, even if the role of Thalia is reasonable, it does not mean that the noise has disappeared. Obviously, the revelation of the truth here is a baggage shaken off, a complete flip, from the perspective of watching the movie, Shaking the baggage is necessary, and turning is necessary, but the audience’s "surprise" is not necessarily appreciated. The feeling may be 500w or even flies. I have the feeling that Nolan split a person into two roles. A good villain must be persuasive. This persuasive power comes from the fullness of the character, and the reversal of the ending suddenly completely completely Bain. Weakened, all the backgrounds given in the film are actually Thalia’s background. What do we know about Bain? We know that he is a protector, but this identity is actually very weak, including why he was disfigured and why he was beaten. We don’t know. As mentioned above, Bruce successfully recovered in the regeneration pool, which makes me feel that this place is not that scary. Well, and the prisoners even shouted encouraging slogans when he crawled out, so why did Baine suffer when Talia crawled out? Then look at Talia, we know she escaped from the regeneration pool, then? She is a black belly, and decisively uses Bain to avenge her father-this paragraph is actually only in the final "narration", and the expressiveness of the narration is very weak, and it is not enough to support the image of this character. In other words, these two roles become weak at the same time. On Thalia, I didn’t watch She loves Bruce Wayne—normally, after all, it’s killing her father and enemy. I didn’t see how much she loves Baine, because she said--Goodbye, my friend. Isn’t this completely giving Baine a card? Why did he say before that her father hated her father for not letting her be with Bain, so he turned around and used Bain to avenge his father? Therefore, Bain is completely tragic. The person he loves does not love him, and he was not even killed by his old enemy. Therefore, this revolution is fake and the revenge is real. This core is revealed, which fully shows the second nature of Talia. If this core is pure Bain, Batman would have been impatient and wanted to kill him. , And don’t want him to die directly, but it’s actually easier for me to accept. After Bain's death, Thalia also died swiftly, so I have to say that this is the director who gave Batman a huge halo. The film uses a multi-threaded narrative, multiple characters surging in, interweaving as the event progresses, and finally closing the net. In order to finish, the front is necessary. This kind of God's perspective also shocks the audience. But I I have to say, I think it should be top-heavy, or that it should have a more convincing ending. It should be a good point to beat the crowd, but the expressiveness is not in place. At the same time, I am also curious why the warriors in the front row do not Take the shield, they are capitalist, shouldn't they be fighting a battle of Xiaomi and rifle? And Batman punched Baine’s mask last few times, and Baine leaked his breath, making me think that when you hit Baine, why didn’t you fight like that? Or is it that Baine can't stand it anymore after a visit to the regeneration pool? Also, if Bain’s mask is so important that he would die if he didn’t wear it, then at least why he had to wear it in the first place. The general disfigurement can’t cause this kind of result. The comics say his The mask provided him with the necessary poison gas, and at the beginning of the movie, a passerby asked him why he was wearing a mask, but Nolan didn't tell us why until the end. Many people think that the front is too long, but I think the detailed preparation is necessary. The problem lies in the sloppy behind. The explosion point that should have been scored 10 points only achieved 8 points, plus there are too many things that have not been explained clearly. It makes people feel that the film is far from perfect. Although the length of the film is already two hours and 45 minutes, I really think it can reach four hours, or if it has four hours. Didn’t this issue Bain completely? Why did he say before that her father hated her father for not letting her be with Bain, so he turned around and used Bain to avenge his father? Therefore, Bain is completely tragic. The person he loves does not love him, and he was not even killed by his old enemy. Therefore, this revolution is fake and the revenge is real. This core is revealed, which fully shows the second nature of Talia. If this core is pure Bain, Batman would have been impatient and wanted to kill him. , And don’t want him to die directly, but it’s actually easier for me to accept. After Bain's death, Thalia also died swiftly, so I have to say that this is the director who gave Batman a huge halo. The film uses a multi-threaded narrative, multiple characters surging in, interweaving as the event progresses, and finally closing the net. In order to finish, the front is necessary. This kind of God's perspective also shocks the audience. But I I have to say, I think it should be top-heavy, or that it should have a more convincing ending. It should be a good point to beat the crowd, but the expressiveness is not in place. At the same time, I am also curious why the warriors in the front row do not Take the shield, they are capitalist, shouldn't they be fighting a battle of Xiaomi and rifle? And Batman punched Baine’s mask last few times, and Baine leaked his breath, making me think that when you hit Baine, why didn’t you fight like that? Or is it that Baine can't stand it anymore after a visit to the regeneration pool? Also, if Bain’s mask is so important that he would die if he didn’t wear it, then at least why he had to wear it in the first place. The general disfigurement can’t cause this kind of result. The comics say his The mask provided him with the necessary poison gas, and at the beginning of the movie, a passerby asked him why he was wearing a mask, but Nolan didn't tell us why until the end. Many people think that the front is too long, but I think the detailed preparation is necessary. The problem lies in the sloppy behind. The explosion point that should have been scored 10 points only achieved 8 points, plus there are too many things that have not been explained clearly. It makes people feel that the film is far from perfect. Although the length of the film is already two hours and 45 minutes, I really think it can reach four hours, or if it has four hours. Didn’t this issue Bain completely? Why did he say before that her father hated her father for not letting her be with Bain, so he turned around and used Bain to avenge his father? Therefore, Bain is completely tragic. The person he loves does not love him, and he was not even killed by his old enemy. Therefore, this revolution is fake and the revenge is real. This core is revealed, which fully shows the second nature of Talia. If this core is pure Bain, Batman would have been impatient and wanted to kill him. , And don’t want him to die directly, but it’s actually easier for me to accept. After Bain's death, Thalia also died swiftly, so I have to say that this is the director who gave Batman a huge halo. The film uses a multi-threaded narrative, multiple characters surging in, interweaving as the event progresses, and finally closing the net. In order to finish, the front is necessary. This kind of God's perspective also shocks the audience. But I I have to say, I think it should be top-heavy, or that it should have a more convincing ending. It should be a good point to beat the crowd, but the expressiveness is not in place. At the same time, I am also curious why the warriors in the front row do not Take the shield, they are capitalist, shouldn't they be fighting a battle of Xiaomi and rifle? And Batman punched Baine’s mask last few times, and Baine leaked his breath, making me think that when you hit Baine, why didn’t you fight like that? Or is it that Baine can't stand it anymore after a visit to the regeneration pool? Also, if Bain’s mask is so important that he would die if he didn’t wear it, then at least why he had to wear it in the first place. The general disfigurement can’t cause this kind of result. The comics say his The mask provided him with the necessary poison gas, and at the beginning of the movie, a passerby asked him why he was wearing a mask, but Nolan didn't tell us why until the end. Many people think that the front is too long, but I think the detailed preparation is necessary. The problem lies in the sloppy behind. The explosion point that should have been scored 10 points only achieved 8 points, plus there are too many things that have not been explained clearly. It makes people feel that the film is far from perfect. Although the length of the film is already two hours and 45 minutes, I really think it can reach four hours, or if it has four hours. Therefore, Bain is completely tragic. The person he loves does not love him, and he was not even killed by his old enemy. Therefore, this revolution is fake and the revenge is real. This core is revealed, which fully shows the second nature of Talia. If this core is pure Bain, Batman would have been impatient and wanted to kill him. , And don’t want him to die directly, but it’s actually easier for me to accept. After Bain's death, Thalia also died swiftly, so I have to say that this is the director who gave Batman a huge halo. The film uses a multi-threaded narrative, multiple characters surging in, interweaving as the event progresses, and finally closing the net. In order to finish, the front is necessary. This kind of God's perspective also shocks the audience. But I I have to say, I think it should be top-heavy, or that it should have a more convincing ending. It should be a good point to beat the crowd, but the expressiveness is not in place. At the same time, I am also curious why the warriors in the front row do not Take the shield, they are capitalist, shouldn't they be fighting a battle of Xiaomi and rifle? And Batman punched Baine’s mask last few times, and Baine leaked his breath, making me think that when you hit Baine, why didn’t you fight like that? Or is it that Baine can't stand it anymore after a visit to the regeneration pool? Also, if Bain’s mask is so important that he would die if he didn’t wear it, then at least why he had to wear it in the first place. The general disfigurement can’t cause this kind of result. The comics say his The mask provided him with the necessary poison gas, and at the beginning of the movie, a passerby asked him why he was wearing a mask, but Nolan didn't tell us why until the end. Many people think that the front is too long, but I think the detailed preparation is necessary. The problem lies in the sloppy behind. The explosion point that should have been scored 10 points only achieved 8 points, plus there are too many things that have not been explained clearly. It makes people feel that the film is far from perfect. Although the length of the film is already two hours and 45 minutes, I really think it can reach four hours, or if it has four hours. Therefore, Bain is completely tragic. The person he loves does not love him, and he was not even killed by his old enemy. Therefore, this revolution is fake and the revenge is real. This core is revealed, which fully shows the second nature of Talia. If this core is pure Bain, Batman would have been impatient and wanted to kill him. , And don’t want him to die directly, but it’s actually easier for me to accept. After Bain's death, Thalia also died swiftly, so I have to say that this is the director who gave Batman a huge halo. The film uses a multi-threaded narrative, multiple characters surging in, interweaving as the event progresses, and finally closing the net. In order to finish, the front is necessary. This kind of God's perspective also makes the audience very incomparable. Shocking, but I have to say, I think it should be top-heavy, or that it should have a more convincing ending. It should be a good point to beat the crowd, but the expressiveness is not in place. At the same time, I am also curious why the front row The warriors of China don’t take up shields. They are capitalist and shouldn’t be fighting a battle of Xiaomi and rifle. And Batman punched Baine’s mask last few times, and Baine leaked his breath, making me think that when you hit Baine, why didn’t you fight like that? Or is it that Baine can't stand it anymore after a visit to the regeneration pool? Also, if Bain’s mask is so important that he would die if he didn’t wear it, then at least why he had to wear it in the first place. The general disfigurement can’t cause this kind of result. The comics say his The mask provided him with the necessary poison gas, and at the beginning of the movie, a passerby asked him why he was wearing a mask, but Nolan didn't tell us why until the end. Many people think that the front is too long, but I think the detailed preparation is necessary. The problem lies in the sloppy behind. The explosion point that should have been scored 10 points only achieved 8 points, plus there are too many things that have not been explained clearly. It makes people feel that the film is far from perfect. Although the length of the film is already two hours and 45 minutes, I really think it can reach four hours, or if it has four hours.


John Blake & Serena Claire: It
can be said that these two roles are undoubtedly the most successful.
John Blake has amazing insight, passion, bravery, and integrity. From beginning to end, from being a novice policeman to his decision to resign, the transition is smooth and reasonable. Batman is his idol, telling him that justice is sometimes governed by the system. Shackled, Gordon wanted his master to teach him how to leave the Novice Village, and Futura was the 2b police representative next to him, and the last policeman who bombed the bridge was the final thrust of his resignation. In fact, he has never participated in actual combat. At first he wanted to go down the manhole cover to find Gordon and was stopped by Futura. Later, when he was hunting Bain, he was stopped by Futura. He wanted to go to the battlefield with the troops and was stopped again. He volunteered. Wanted to fight with Batman, but was sent to see the children. His last entry into the Bat Cave is a perfect match for the first one. Batman has a successor. I have to say that this kind of treatment is really exciting. Although, his combat power and financial resources are questionable.
Compared with John Black, Serena is much more complicated. At first, she couldn't tell whether she was an evil. In fact, she was not an absolute good person, and it was this contradiction that made her charming. She is selfish, so she betrayed Batman. She has a conscience, so she helped Batman. At the same time, I think she is also very romantic. Otherwise, why did you kiss Batman while throwing a nuclear bomb — I have to say, it reminds me of Jack With Rose, the two of the Titanic, whether they are drowning or not, they must kiss first. She broke Batman's back and also let Bruce Wayne move into a new life. Although the original party may be called by this pair of lovers, Lei Deao, but it is also necessary. After all, the master has just been dumped by Talia, and she is the only woman left. I am fortunate that I am not an original party, so I think they are a good match. They are both working partners and lovers. The emotional foundation of a small trouble all the way down is bound to be no worse than that of Thalia.



Why don't I want to analyze the depth of TDKR——I admit that Nolan mapped some things, including human nature, good and evil class struggle... But in the end, Bain and Thalia’s revelation is equivalent to overthrowing their revolutionary excuses, the so-called private Regrets, you don’t need to go online, so I don’t think it’s "profound meaning" can be studied from the perspective of the whole film. Nolan’s blockbusters tell us that he is a man who is good at dancing in shackles. This is also his greatest strength. Nowadays, many people like to put him on the altar and over-analyze his movies. In fact, it is a kind of burden, just like completely Politicizing TDKR-don't forget the nature of its commercial film, it can have depth, but it's not so showy at all. At least in this film, I haven't seen it. Besides, the first impression of a movie is too important. If most people have seen something wrong with the character plot in the first time, then even if it is really deep, it will be immediately covered by dazzling flaws. , Even if the degree of glaring is eased when you watch it a second time, don’t forget that many people won’t watch it a second time.



Finally, some people think that TDKR’s narrative is too bloated. I must say that multi-threaded narratives can sometimes make people feel tired, but for this film, this is a must, so Spider-Man must be pulled out to talk about it. , Because Spider-Man is a one-line narrative, so the whole story line is clear from the beginning. It can be said that anyone over ten years old can see it, but is this advisable for TDKR? Can TDKR be single-line narrative? Unlike Spider-Man, Spider-Man tells a story of growth. There is no big conspiracy. The big boss just accidentally becomes the big boss, so it doesn’t need a multi-line narrative. Let's talk about TDKR. With so many characters in the play, the crowd is divided into attack/counterattack/inaction. How can he explain it from the perspective of pure Batman? This time there are three more main characters. If the narrative is not like this, then the story will be more difficult to tell. Unlike Inception, TDKR has a clear and complex camp and an unprecedented story pattern, while Inception does not have a character. They are not opposed to each other, and the team helps to accomplish one thing together, so it's easier said than done. Although TDKR has many shortcomings, it may be uncontrollable by no one except Nolan, not to mention the various real-time special effects used in it, which can only be described as "crazy". Although I think it is not as well thought-out and perfect as Inception, it is indeed a powerful end to the Batman trilogy.








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The Dark Knight Rises quotes

  • Alfred: [to Bruce] Remember when you left Gotham? Before all this, before Batman? You were gone seven years. Seven years I waited, hoping that you wouldn't come back. Every year, I took a holiday. I went to Florence, there's this cafe, on the banks of the Arno. Every fine evening, I'd sit there and order a Fernet Branca. I had this fantasy, that I would look across the tables and I'd see you there, with a wife and maybe a couple of kids. You wouldn't say anything to me, nor me to you. But we'd both know that you'd made it, that you were happy. I never wanted you to come back to Gotham. I always knew there was nothing here for you, except pain and tragedy. And I wanted something more for you than that. I still do.

  • Alfred: [about Selina Kyle] You two should exchange notes over coffee.

    Bruce Wayne: So now you're trying to set me up with a jewel thief?

    Alfred: At this point, I'd set you up with a chimpanzee if it'd brought you back to the world!

    Bruce Wayne: There's nothing out there for me.

    Alfred: And that's the problem. You hung up your cape and your cowl, but you didn't move on, you never went to find a life, to find someone...

    Bruce Wayne: Alfred... I did find someone.

    Alfred: I know, and you lost her. But that's all part of living, sir. But you're not living. You're just waiting, hoping for things to go bad again.