Refutes "Circulation Theory"

Ora 2022-03-21 09:01:04

Quoting the original text (from Donnie Darko FAQ Ten Questions and Answers on "Death Illusion"):
2010-03-17 09:10:51 ALEX 2009-03-27 19:48:11 Sancruz I think

the original poster means this: in the original In the Universe, on the night of October 2nd, because of a time and space (that is, the wormhole travel in Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time"), the aircraft engine that crashed on October 30 fell through the wormhole. It fell on Donnie Darko's roof and smashed him to death.

"Donnie Darko was smashed to death" is what the original universe is doomed to happen. This event is the connection point between the two original universes created by the interlacing of time and space!

If things happen in this way, then there will be no offline universe, and the original universe will continue to advance forever without any difference. However, if the aircraft engine hadn’t killed Donnie Darko at that time, an offline universe would be created, and events in the original universe would enter the offline universe, creating a new direction. As a result, the original universe became an offline universe. When 28 days passed, the engine dropped from Donnie Darko’s mother went through the wormhole to the original universe 28 days ago. At this time, the key point came:

If this engine does not kill Donnie Darko, then the original universe will enter the offline universe again, repeating what happened in the offline universe for 28 days, everything will repeat in the offline universe forever, creating an endless loop, and the universe will no longer go ahead. Of course, if the airplane engine smashes Donnie Darko to death, and the two original universes have a connection point, there will be no endless loop like in the offline universe.

Therefore, the story told in the film mentioned by the original poster may have been repeated many times in a loop. This is confirmed. Perhaps it was in 28 days that Donnie Darko found a way to solve this endless loop of the universe and smiled. Those who are going to die, if he does not die, the universe will always be in an endless loop, which is no different from destruction.


The explanation of this bean friend!
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I have a question, in the original text:
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A "Donnie Darko was smashed to death" is what the original universe is destined to happen, and this is the connection The connection point between the front and back of the two original universes caused by the interleaving of time and space!
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B If things happen like this, then there will be no offline universe, the original universe It will continue to advance endlessly as usual.
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You said that the incident of A (referring to donnie being smashed to death) was brought about by the intersection of time and space, and the two universes that came out of it At the connection point, you said that if B this thing happens, there will be no other universe.

This is a contradiction. A time and space interlaced = two universes = donnie was smashed to death = B a universe?

My point is that A’s analysis is not problematic, but B’s conclusion is too sloppy. I will not discuss the viewpoints of the book Philosophy of Time Travel such as the manual dead. According to Donnie’s personal experience, he can only live to 2 days in the original universe. However, in the parallel TU (according to Donnie’s There may be countless TUs of self-selection. The survival time of donnie in this TU is uncertain. The film narrates a possibility, that is, the situation of a TU, but no matter what the situation, for donnie, he will return to the 2nd in the end, and of course it is a wormhole.
In other words, there is no hard requirement for the occurrence of wormholes to be 30 days. This is just a possibility. Of course, if you analyze the engine, you can determine the aircraft model, and then determine the operating company, flight route and even more detailed information, which limits the flight status of the aircraft in the TU-there must be such an aircraft and its engine It must be separated from the body, which means there must be a flight accident. As for whether the falling of donnie through the wormhole and the airplane engine should happen at the same time, it seems that this is required in the film. Furthermore, the fact that the aircraft engine fell must happen, so the cause of this accident is the wormhole, then it is logical for donnie to pass through the wormhole at this time, that is, the donnie passing through the wormhole and the aircraft engine falling must happen at the same time. . In this way, the wormhole must be formed on the 30th, and the donnie must pass through the wormhole on this day. So, even if donnie’s self-will is considered, the possibility of TU seems to be very limited. Perhaps the "destiny" that appears in the film from time to time is based on this consideration, so further reasoning, perhaps free will is already "god" Under consideration, donnie "must" complete the last step of her personal experience through the wormhole: death. Based on this reasoning, there is only one situation for TU, the situation in the film.
As mentioned above, for donnie's personal experience, he has gone through the process from PU to TU and then to PU. In fact, everyone is swayed by lz's point of view. I don't think there is a cycle. How does collapse and destruction enter the cycle? Reboot? It's not a computer. It can be seen from my reasoning train of thought. As a personal donnie, it did go through the PTP process, but this is not a cycle. Note that this is a process and the only way to go before death. And the other people in TU only exist as his experience. For them, donnie returns to PU through the wormhole, and they are not considered as objects. Then, the cycle theory can be discarded.
For other people in TU, I will also find time to supplement and improve the development clues based on them. The previous views may be too shallow. Now I just came up to read some things after watching the movie, and I feel uncomfortable to write this review. Welcome to make bricks and discuss together. After all, I only read it once and didn't study the book, so I wrote it hastily.
PS The destiny I mentioned above is a hint in the film, and the philosophical proposition (fatalism?) deduced by it does not represent my opinion. In addition, regarding the experience that other people are donnies, this should be idealistic, and it is just for the time being. Although it is my own point of view, it does not mean that I fully agree with the
above two philosophical propositions of PPS. Before the discussion, please explain whether to discuss my premise or my reasoning ideas.

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Donnie Darko quotes

  • [Pommeroy is reading to the class from the 1954 short story "The Destructors" by Graham Greene]

    Karen Pommeroy: "There would be headlines in the papers. Even the grown-up gangs who ran the betting at the all-in wrestling and the Barrow Boys would hear with respect of how Old Misery's house had been destroyed. It was as though this plan had been with him all his life, pondered through the seasons, now in his 15th year crystallized with the pain of puberty." What is Graham Greene trying to communicate with this passage? Why did the children break into Old Misery's House? Joanie?

    Joanie James: They wanted to rob him.

    Karen Pommeroy: Joanie, if you had actually read the short story, which, at a whopping 13 pages, would have kept you up all night, you would know that the children find a great deal of money in the mattress, but they burn it.

  • Gretchen: Um, where do I sit?

    Karen Pommeroy: Sit next to the boy you think is the cutest.

    [the class gasps]

    Karen Pommeroy: Quiet! Let her choose.

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