The most abused is actually a truth (serious spoilers)

Guillermo 2021-10-13 13:06:31

1. The spoiler is serious.

2. It's a rotten comment, so it's better not to look at those who are sensitive to it.

3. It is all personal opinions, and different interpretations are welcome.

4. The following are facts and brain supplements, just to talk about my understanding of the feelings of the main characters.




On October 31st, I went to see an afternoon session of AMC in Hong Kong. When the theater lights were all on and the audience was few, and the second easter egg began to play on the screen, Thor fell from the sky in the classic costume, and Jane walked out with a surprised expression and touched his lips.

The girl in the back row sucked her nose and stood up. I took off my glasses, and the tears had dried up half an hour ago.

Of course, this is not for the hero and heroine.



Is it that heterosexuality has become a heterogeneous? Is the actor's off-screen high-profile show bromance affecting the audience's tendency?

I just can’t be persuaded to believe in Thor and Jane. If Thor and Jane felt that their emotional foundation was a little weak, and Thor fell in love with Jane, not so much as love, as it is because I have never seen a crush of a mortal girl. Then finish watching. Thor 2, I really can't accept this sudden uplift of "true love" feelings.

Jane is actually a clue character in Thor 2. She strayed into a different dimension and absorbed foreign matter, which activated the ancient demon, went to Asgard to find her, and then wanted to drag the whole world into the darkness.

For the advancement of the plot, Jane's existence is very necessary, but for a female protagonist who does not have a strong audience base and has an ambiguous personality setting, this setting is tantamount to discrediting. Just because Thor took her to Asgard, the demon came to the door and almost destroyed Asgard, not to mention that Frigga died for her at all. Loki saved her twice, and if Thor hadn't had Thor, he almost died for her. And when she participated in the grand funeral after Frigga's death, I didn't even see solemnity, sadness or regret on her face. She just stood beside Thor, looking at the ships sailing to the distance under the dark night and the burning sky with an almost curious expression. And it wasn't until Loki's death that she reacted and said to Thor that it was all because of me.

Not even a word of sorry.

Not to mention the two slaps she slapped when she saw Thor, and she slapped the line when she saw Loki's for New York.

If all of this can be explained by the alien energy in her, then when she and Thor are kissing on the platform outside the palace, the alien energy seems to be completely absent.

It is Thor and Loki who live and die together to face powerful enemies. The purpose of the heroine's existence is to be saved by Frigga, saved by Thor, saved by Loki, fainted in times of crisis, and magically forgotten by the devil during the war. hurt.

Oh, she used science to help Thor in the final battle, after all, she is a scientist.

When Thor fell to the ground and the huge battleship was about to fall to crush him, all she could do was to fall on Thor, determined to die with him. It was Dr. Erik who wittyly used the "converter" they had been using before to move the warship to another place. If it was Jane who did this, then I would admire the cleverness and courage of this woman in a critical moment.

It's a pity that the director didn't even give her the chance to save her sweetheart.



The director gave this opportunity to Loki.



Loki is the villain of Thor 1 and the Avengers, no doubt, but in Thor 2, I have to say, fortunately, there is the ending that is left to the audience's imagination, otherwise it is really complete.

At the beginning of Thor 2, Loki was escorted to Odin. This is the first time the "father and son" have met since Loki fell from the Rainbow Bridge? Loki greeted Frigga lightly and happily, and Odin severely rebuked him, expressing that he would be imprisoned for life, and specifically pointed out that Frigga could not visit him. Loki's expression fluctuated at this moment. Then he mentioned Thor lightly.

Later in the conversation with Frigga in the jail, every time he mentioned Odin, he would mention Thor slightly ironically.

And what is Thor doing? He was asking Heimdall, how is Jane. When he heard the prison riot, his first reaction was Loki blurted out. Was it out of worry or suspicion that he was in trouble again?

Of course he can't expect him to care about the prisoner who has been imprisoned for life after Loki's terrible disaster. But I couldn't help thinking, if Thor hadn't asked Loki later, would he never see him again?

Loki's bravery made him yell at Frigga that Odin is not my father, and calmly said that you are not my mother; let him still create a glamorous expression and mockery when Thor comes to him for help. But for the evil god known as the silver tongue, these are just short-lived tongues.

Thor no longer trusts Loki, as he said, if you betray me I will kill you. When he said this, his eyes were calm and majestic, like the King of Asgard. First of all, he asked for help because of desperation, and second, at least, he believed in Loki's feelings for Frigga.

Otherwise, you won't see at a glance that Loki is just pretending that I'm good, or you won't believe Loki's Trust my rage and make a plan with him to deceive the enemy.



Until the war, all the drama about Thor and Loki was shrouded in a relaxed and happy gag atmosphere. Of course, this is a deliberate arrangement, adding a light-hearted element to the seemingly heavy movie. It's like a classic combination of mindlessness and unhappy. If Thor was mindless before and Loki was unhappy, the plot seems to be reversed here. Thor's face is stern, and Loki walks beside him and talks to him in a glorious manner, as if they were a time when they were brothers.

Turn Thor into Sif and say that you are so beautiful. Become the American team and ask Thor if he is more used to it. On the fleeing spacecraft, I think Thor is not right, that is not right, and I fainted in a naive tone. Jane said, "Oh, is she dead?" It's like the young evil god who turned a wine glass into a snake on the eve of Thor's coronation. He looked into his brother's eyes seriously, and said in a half-truth and half-truth. I love you and give us a kiss.

And Thor will never laugh and pat his shoulders and say brother again, nor will he clasp his neck and say come home brother sadly like in the women's federation, but simply and rudely cover his mouth and give it to him. Wear handcuffs.

In Thor 2, Thor doesn't even call him brother anymore.



Thor has his own plan. Throwing Loki outside the spaceship is a bit like Loki's revenge for throwing Thor down 10,000 meters in the women's federation, but Loki just smiled and said I am impressed to such a counterattack. Then the act of driving a small aircraft through the slit to leave Asgard was dangerous and dangerous, which proved that Loki told Thor before on the spacecraft that I can also drive this, and Thor said you can't fly.

Thor should also reply I am impressed at this moment, but he didn't say a word, leaning over and gently covering the fainted Jane.

Loki said abruptly, why I don't have that energy. This tone is faintly lonely, not like "if I have this powerful energy, I can conquer the world", but more like, if I have that energy, can you treat me so tenderly.

Even when they quarreled again and Thor angrily pressed him on a surface and said I don’t believe you, Loki still looked at Thor with those watery eyes, as innocent and aggrieved as always, but this Thor can't be moved anymore.

On Thor's side, the sentence I wish I could trust you seems to indicate that he has cut off from his brother.



Loki was standing by Thor's side and Jane was sitting behind. Loki took out a knife and stabbed Thor again. A tear slipped from the corner of his eye when he did this at the Women's Federation last time, saying it's too late. That seemed to be Loki's only weak moment in the Women's Federation, but in Thor 2, he seemed to have been sentimental, for Frigga, for Thor.

Slashing the hand is of course an illusion. Thor tells Loki that we are moving while swinging a hammer at the devil, but what Loki does is to protect Jane with his whole body. This is the first time he has rescued her. During the fierce battle, the enemy threw something similar to a black hole, and Loki rushed to block Jane, this was the second time. When Loki fell in a slow shot, I wondered in disbelief that if Loki was once again displaced between the Nine Realms for Jane, whether it would be the ultimate in Mary Su. Fortunately Thor rushed to rescue him.

When Loki finished the fight on his side and found that Thor had been hit on the ground with little power to fight back, he rushed to save his brother almost without hesitation. He pierced the big boss with a spear from behind, and then the guy turned around and pierced him with a spear. Thor yelled NOOOOOO on the side, my brain was really blank at the time.

Loki fell to the ground with a pale face and smiled and said see you in hell. After the big boss exploded, Thor ran over and picked him up. The first word Loki tremblingly said was I'm a fool, isn't it, i' m a fool.

You shouldn't have come to save your brother, are you? You shouldn't have come this time, are you? You shouldn’t be so stupid to ignore that there is so much love in your hate, right? Or, you shouldn’t have been expecting Thor to understand how you feel, right?

When Thor said that it's ok you will be all right, Loki just said in a pile, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry.

Why are you sorry for? For the disaster on the earth, for the sadness and disappointment of Frigga and Odin, for the disappointment of Thor with you to the point of giving up being your brother?

It's just this series of sorry, thousands of words, it's too late to say.

It's too late.



Thor said, I will tell my father about your deeds and let him know how brave you are. If it were Thor 1's Loki, he would probably be satisfied with his father's affirmation, but today, the obsession with his father's affirmation has turned into hatred mixed with strong love, or love mixed with strong hatred. Thor knows only one, and probably never knows the second, because Loki never speaks.

But at this moment, Loki said I didn't do this for him.

This sentence that should have become a true expression does not follow. It's maddening, because it doesn't stop abruptly, but it stops talking.

What does this mean? If you mean revenge for Frigga this time, you can say I did this for our mother. If it means dying to save Thor, you can also frankly say I did this for you, and give your brother a final blow in his heart.

But Loki didn't say anything, just closed his eyes quietly.



After this shot, Thor didn't seem to show the sadness of dying for Loki at all until the end of the shot.

Thor didn't take his body with him, just walked away with Jane to find the black hole that he traversed. In the cave, he even showed a jealous look because Jane received the phone call from his current "boyfriend". Faced with Dr. Erik's question of Loki, he just calmly said that Loki is dead, and Erik blurted out that thankfully, Thor didn't even react.

Of course, all this can be explained as the enemy has no time to take care of it, but when I think of Thor's expression on Frigga's death, it is only solemn, shouldn't we be asking for something?



The last shot is Thor returning to Asgard after the war, expressing to Odin on the throne that he does not want to be king. He said, Loki died with honor. Although he did wrong things, I seem to be more ignorant of following the rules. I am not fit to sit on the throne. I just want to be a good person.

Is this because of the introspection of Loki's death? It seems to have that meaning, but it is not clear.

Odin sighed and let him go. Thor said thank you and turned around. The red robe was flying behind him, and the blond god strode across the temple, just like when Thor 1 was crowned, except that the spirit of the time turned into a headless head. Back.

On the throne, Odin turned into Loki, the evil god propped his jaw, looked thoughtfully at Thor's distant back, and responded in a low voice, thank you.



When Loki pretended to be Odin, Thor wanted to hand over the hammer, but what Loki told Odin was that you kept it, it belongs to you.

Does this prove that they finally reached some kind of reconciliation after experiencing so much?

What is Loki thanking for? What are you apologizing for again?

To this day, does the only thing Loki wants is the power behind the throne?

Or is this the only thing he needs today?

If it is an out-and-out strategy, why is it so moved during suspended animation?

If you just lie to Thor again because of suspended animation and say sorry, then Thor is really sad for you.



In front of the fake Odin, Thor, who said "This is not for Jane, not to stay with her on earth", finally did, but like a hero in a fairy tale, he descended from the sky and appeared in front of his lover.

Odin once said in the film that although we are gods, we will die. At the time, it seemed that Loki said sarcastically, yeah, it just lived another five thousand years.



Therefore, Thor decided to dedicate fifty years of his five thousand years of life to a mortal woman.

If true love is so quantitatively equivalent to fifty years of five thousand years of life, then true love is nothing more than this.



And his brother will watch him for a long time on the lonely throne, and it has been like this for thousands of years, and it will continue after thousands of years.

Thor will, as always, know nothing about it.



I used to think that this sentence was too bloody and too simplified the complex relationship between them, but after Thor 2, I began to feel that this is the interpretation of the true meaning of their relationship.

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Thor: The Dark World quotes

  • [from trailer]

    Malekith: Ask yourself: what would you sacrifice, for what you believe?

  • [from trailer]

    Jane Foster: It's a different world. Maybe they were different for a reason...