Pathological love, but love accepted by both parties who have nothing to do with the surroundings. Love is not so much in essence, which is why it is not so much a gay romance film as a film about the existence and integrity of people. The point is not comrades, it’s the same if it’s siblings, it’s just that putting it between the same sex can make it less licentious and retain its desires.
I don't understand Plato, but one argument in "Meeting Drink" is that the initial form of a person is a circle, which is split into two halves, some are males and females, and some are males. Therefore, people are incomplete, and they always have a sense of searching and confusion (maybe some people who are sensitive or aware will be trapped by this sense of incompleteness). Just like in the movie, after the younger brother left, the older brother said that he was lost. It is not true that the relationship between the brothers is said to be love. After waking up from the first sex scene, the younger brother asked him why you love me, and the older brother replied, because you are mine and you need love. The elder brother asked him why he loves me, and the younger brother said that because you love me. Two people are more like, the younger brother belongs to the elder brother completely, and the elder brother completely loves the younger brother. Of course, this relationship is not single-line, on the light and dark lines, it is double-line, but the complete possession of the elder brother and all the acceptance of the younger brother are open lines, while the dark line is all the love of the elder brother and the possession of the younger brother. It is the integrity that gives two people such a relationship rather than a single comradeship, which is different from other gay movies. This is mentioned in call me by your name, which is actually why Oliver asked Elio to call him by his own name, because at this time, for Oliver, Elio is himself. This is also a metaphor for the integrity of Plato's people. In this movie, this point of view is emphasized again later. The younger brother sleeps on the bed and the older brother sits in a chair looking at him. The narrator says that only when two people give and trust each other is the most perfect state. . In fact, my elder brother has a clearer understanding of the state of the two people and is also the leader of this relationship, but this completely existing state must be a complete fit for the two people. At this point, this sentence is actually wrong. of.
But the film also emphasizes that the reason why this relationship, or incest, is justifiable is the high purity of the relationship. This is also the side of Plato in the movie. On the one hand, it is manifested in the complete fit of the relationship between the two people. In the whole movie, apart from the geographical uncertainty caused by the separation, the relationship between the two people is very surreal and pure, and there is no jealousy, hatred, or boredom between each other. The emotions of, boredom, and indifference are absolute attachment and love. This kind of relationship itself is almost impossible to exist in reality. This is why the older brother's performance after the younger brother left, if the younger brother is the one who realized the first, then the older brother is the one who both recognized and experienced. Therefore, after the younger brother left, the elder brother felt extremely empty. He went to the bar and asked the little girl to go home, which was a manifestation of the pain of the elder brother. And the people in the bar are meaningless to my brother, because no one belongs to him, just like walking on the street, there are many people who look good, but they are strangers to themselves, meaningless NPCs ( Of course, this is also the Plato setting of the movie, not in reality). On the other hand, in the growth environment of two people, the first person the younger brother sees is the older brother. Generally speaking, life begins with the parents, but in the setting of this movie, the younger brother's life begins with the older brother. This is reflected in the conflict between brother, mother, and father. As the mother, as the person who gave the younger brother's life, the mother's first ownership of the younger brother is contested. Therefore, the feeling of the female or the mother gave her the first warning. The same is reflected in the brother's father. The fact that the younger brother was scolded by his father was to clarify the fact that the older brother and his parents were fighting for the first ownership of the younger brother. At the same time, the growth environment of the two in the film is extremely platonic, the family’s non-intervention, no pressure, lack of social insight (in fact, it does not cause harm, such as swimming coaches), and the complete lack of social moral environment. These are in reality. impossible. Therefore, a big premise was set for the film, that is, the degree of incest is acceptable under the conditions of emotion and environment and extremely platonic conditions.
Therefore, this is a platonic, utopian, story about the soul (there is meat underneath) rather than the soul and the flesh. It is a philosophical film rather than a pure love film. At the same time, incest, which seems to be the biggest feature of the film, does not actually exist, because the film actually denies the justice of incest in reality. This film is more like an experiment done by the director himself, showing something in the experiment, discussing some things, and the result established under the experimental conditions. If you want to use non-experimental conditions to judge, it is in vain in itself. The reason why I scored 5 points has a lot to do with my own aesthetics. At the same time, not all directors have the ability to build an experimental site. How to properly build the scene without being jerky or embarrassing, how to maintain the integrity and (internal) logic of the story in the setting (external logic is the setting of the movie, and the audience accepts it, and the director and the audience are under this setting It can be discussed, just like your college entrance examination, at least it is a propositional composition) How to balance the aesthetics of the rhythm of the film, how to use a story to make a philosophical discussion, is a test of the director's control of the overall situation and details. It is not a simple matter. Thing. There is an unexpected admiration for Brazilian movies.
Haha, there are really a lot of details in this movie. It feels like the screenwriter and director have been polishing it for a long time. One detail is that the ideals of the elder brother and younger brother have been reversed. When I was young, my elder brother was swimming and my younger brother wanted to be a doctor. When they grew up, they were the opposite. This is also one of the evidences of the integrity of the two persons.
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