About loneliness, about comedy, about elitism and social evil

Sarai 2021-12-07 08:01:08

What is loneliness? What is comedy? What is sin?

1. This movie can be said to have nothing to do with all the previous Batman and Joker comics movies. It is more like drawing on the characters in it and discussing some deeper social issues. Therefore, it is not in a comparative dimension with any other DC or Marvel super British movies. The only Diablo similar in style is "V for Vendetta" (coincidentally, it is also produced by DC). This movie is not at all about exploring why the clown becomes a clown or what the criminal experienced before becoming a criminal, nor does it hope to shape the growth of a high-IQ criminal genius like Nolan’s Batman. He is telling the story of an ordinary person, a freak, a marginalized person, Arthur Fleck, who was despised and spurned by the public in the traditional sense, his life.

2. From the perspective of Arthur Fleck (and Phoenix's masterful performance), what this film hopes to explore is areas that have not been touched by other super British movies before-including loneliness, comedy and social alienation; therefore; , Its comparison object, or the movies with similar styles and themes, are definitely not other Marvel DC movies, but should be such as "Shawshank's Redemption"; it should be "The Life of the Disgusted Pine Nut"; it should be " "Black Swan" should also be "The Melting Pot", but the expression of "Joker" is more radical, extreme and politically incorrect. Shawshank discusses freedom, Songzi discusses native family, black swan is art, melting pot is social evil, and "Joker" is loneliness.

3. [About loneliness]: What is the ultimate of loneliness?

To answer this question, you must first answer "What is loneliness?", I believe you ask everyone who has watched this movie "Do you think Arthur Flake is lonely?" You will get a 100% affirmative answer, but why? ? Why do you think he is lonely, or what makes you think he is lonely? Is it because he is born with a defect and can't help laughing when he has strong emotions, so he is regarded as a strange and freak? Was it because there were no friends, and the only mother close to him finally became the culprit for all his misfortunes? Was it because his ideals eventually became the laughing stock of people's banter and ridicule? Or is it because he can never change his life? In the film, Arthur Fleck said after becoming a clown: "I used to think that my life was just a tragedy, but now, I realize that this is a fucking comedy."

Let me talk about my understanding: loneliness is not the so-called online so-called one person eating Haidilao. There is a bear on the opposite side or the second cup at half price. So I ate two cones. Loneliness lies in the fact that no one agrees with it, and it lies in seeking approval. ; And the ultimate of loneliness is that when you make every effort to get the approval of others, others are lacking in mocking all your efforts to seek approval. Just like Arthur Fleck in the movie, his dream is to become a comedian who brings laughter to the whole world. However, it is his "not funny" that really makes the audience laugh. For a comedian, the audience says he is the only one The joke is that the jokes he tells are not funny, it is loneliness.

4. [About comedy]: What is the essence of comedy

There are at least three different types of comedy (Comedy) in the film. What I actually want to express is the evolution of comedy in the United States over the past sixty years-from Charlie Chaplin to Jerry Lewis, to now Jon Stewart and Jimmy Fallon , How did the talk show culture evolve. The comedy of the original Chaplin era consisted of comics, exaggerated facial expressions and body movements plus a soundtrack; to Jerry Lewis, the comedy added a lot of absurdity, and also added a lot of pornographic jokes. The only paragraph in the film from beginning to end is this:

A woman choosing a man is like buying a car:

To consider whether the performance is good or not,

Not durable, durable,

Cost-effectiveness is inappropriate;

And when a man chooses a woman, it's like parking:

Oh there is a parking space here,

This parking space is a bit narrow, but you can try

Hey, this parking space is good,

Oh, this parking space requires money, then forget it.

And then to the last modern talk show like Jimmy Fallon, which is the Morrie show played by De Niro in the film: Arthur Frank was invited as a guest, and he told such a joke on the show:

"Boom boom boom"

"what's up?"

"Madam, your son was hit and killed by a drunk driver."

There was no sound. . . De Niro said it was not funny, and another guest who was invited to the stage said that you should not make such a politically incorrect joke. This leads to another theme of the film-who should define "funny" and "not funny"? Furthermore, who dictated "political correctness" and "political incorrectness", and stipulating that we should not be politically incorrect, is it a kind of "political incorrectness" in itself? Later, the film uses the mouth of a clown to say the answer to this question: For drama and talk shows, what is defined by the elite is funny, what is not funny, what can be joked and what is not, what kind of person is normal What kind of person is not normal. All of these are defined by the elites themselves, regardless of the situation or feelings of other people (classes). And the clown in the film is more like a banner, practicing: "I don't need you (we) to define what is good and bad."

5. [About social crime]: Is it the criminal that caused the social evil, or the social evil that caused the criminal?

This issue has been discussed in jurisprudence for too many years: whether the choice of crime is the personal will of the criminal, he is born a bad person, or is forced by social civilization and negligence, and the society has not given him enough care and education. It's like everyone is a lunatic, but you haven't encountered such a thing as'All it takes is a bad day' ('All it takes is a bad day') far away from our lives? Not far away, think about the United States under Trump's rule, and even closer, think about Hong Kong now. I will not think about why Hong Kong’s "failed youth" has become a wasteful youth, nor will I think about the impact of Hong Kong’s return to China on the lives of local Hong Kong people. We (including our mainlanders or the elites of Hong Kong society) ) All I care about is that the wasteful people blocked the subway and made me unable to go home, and the trouble at the airport caused my flight to be cancelled. I have never tried to understand what the "waste youths" are arguing about, whether they have any reason or not, I just read the news and want to let the Hong Kong Garrison shoot them all. So in fact, what is the difference between me and Thomas Wayne in Gotham City who have turned a deaf ear to the painful lives of the lower classes? I can't answer this question. .

Let me tell another story: There is a sphinx mystery in ancient Greece. Sphinx asks others, what has four legs in the morning, two legs at noon, and three legs at night. If you can't answer it, you will die. The answer to this riddle is "person". This is actually a wonderful metaphor. The "person" who is guessing does not realize that he is the answer to the riddle. This riddle seems to describe a monster or something strange, but it is actually The person who answered the question. It was Oedipus who guessed the riddle, but Oedipus was no longer a human being when he killed his father and married his mother. In fact, this is also a metaphor for the situation of Oedipus. Oedipus looked around for the murderer who killed the old king. Who was the murderer was a mystery to him, and finally found out that he killed the old king. The riddle of the Sphinx was guessed by Oedipus and he chose to jump off the cliff. Oedipus knew that he had killed his father and married his mother and then blinded him to self-exile. And we have seen many films satirizing the elite class, but we never realize that most of us are actually members of the elite class. I saw the people who mocked and mocked Frank in the film, but did not think of me. Intentionally or unintentionally alienated people who have laughed at people who look abnormal. Just like a girl I like many years ago asked me who I like, and I answered "Guess", she would never guess that it was herself. In fact, all mysteries are born prematurely, and wise men are lazy.

6. The longer I live, the more I admire the sentence: "We are inseparable from the sins of society." I guess this may be the reason why this movie is so politically incorrect or even provocative and against the left. Challenge the reasons for mainstream American values ​​today.

7. It is recommended to see if you have ever felt lonely.

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Extended Reading

Joker quotes

  • Arthur Fleck: [Arthur goes to Wayne Manor where he sees young Bruce and does a clown rooting form before talking to him through the gates] Hi. What's your name?

    Bruce Wayne: I'm Bruce.

    Arthur Fleck: Bruce. I'm Arthur.

    [He sticks his hands through the gate, puts his fingers on Bruce's face lifting the corners of his mouth as if to make him smile]

    Alfred Pennyworth: Bruce! Bruce! Get away from that man.

    Arthur Fleck: It's okay. I'm a good guy.

    Alfred Pennyworth: How do you do? Who are you?

    Arthur Fleck: I'm here to see Mr. Wayne.

    Alfred Pennyworth: Well, you shouldn't be speaking to his son

    [Giving back the fake flowers Arthur gave Bruce]

    Alfred Pennyworth: Why did you give him these flowers?

    Arthur Fleck: No, they're not real. It's magic. I was just trying to make Bruce smile.

    Alfred Pennyworth: Well, it's not funny, is it? Do I need to call the police?

    Arthur Fleck: No, please. My mother's name is Penny. Penny Fleck. She used to work here years ago. Can you please tell Mr. Wayne I need to see him?

    Alfred Pennyworth: You are her son?

    Arthur Fleck: Yeah. Did you know her? I know about the two of them. She told me everything.

    Alfred Pennyworth: There's nothing to know. There is no "them." Your mother was delusional. She was a sick woman.

    Arthur Fleck: Don't say that.

    Alfred Pennyworth: Just go. Before you make a fool of yourself.

    Arthur Fleck: Thomas Wayne is my father.

    Alfred Pennyworth: [Alfred starts laughing, causing Arthur in anger to put his hand through the gates around Alfred's neck and starts to choke him] Let go of me! Let go! Let go of me!

    [Arthur looks at Bruce watching with fear, he turns and runs off]

  • Detective Garrity: Mr. Fleck. Sorry to bother you. I'm Detective Garrity this is my partner, Detective Burke. We have a few questions for you, but you weren't home. So we spoke with your mother.

    Arthur Fleck: Oh. What did you say to her? Did you do this?

    Detective Garrity: What? No.

    Detective Burke: No, no, no. We just asked her some questions. She got hysterical. Hyperventilating, collapsed...

    Arthur Fleck: Yeah, but the doctor said she had a stroke.

    Detective Garrity: We're sorry to hear about that. But like I said, I still have some questions for you. They're about to subway killings that happened last week. You've heard about them right?

    Arthur Fleck: Yeah. It's horrible.

    Detective Garrity: Right.

    Detective Garrity: So we spoke with your boss, over at Ha-Ha's. He said you were fired for bringing a gun into the children's hospital. Is that true, Mr. Fleck?

    Arthur Fleck: It's a prop. It's part of my act. I'm a party clown.

    Detective Burke: All right, so why were you fired?

    Arthur Fleck: They said I wasn't funny enough. Can you imagine that? Now if you don't mind, I have to go take care of my mother.

    Detective Burke: Your boss also gave us one of your cards. This condition of yours, The laughing, is it real, or some sort of clown thing?

    Arthur Fleck: A clown thing?

    Detective Garrity: Yeah. I mean, part of your act?

    Arthur Fleck: What do you think?

    [Arthur turns and starts walking towards the hospital doors, but walks into the glass door]

    Detective Garrity: It's exit only.