Latent, at the age of 8 or at the end?

Madyson 2021-10-20 17:40:44

Patrick Wilson as father Josh Lambert
Rose Byrne as mother Renai Lambert
Ty Simpkins as eldest son Dalton Lambert
Barbara Hershey as grandma Lorraine Lambert
Leigh Whannell as Exorcist (wearing glasses) Specs
Angus Sampson as Exorcist (bearded) Tucker
Lin Shaye

After watching the film, the old exorcist Elise Rainier found that there are two different opinions about the ending of the film on the Internet. The difference is mainly in the father Josh. One theory is that Josh is helping his son return to the underworld of the flesh. After the trip, the old woman took over his body; another way of saying it is that the old woman had already taken over Josh's body when he was 8 years old. I support the latter view. But after reading a lot of comments, I felt that they were not elaborate and systematic enough, so I simply pulled the film from beginning to end to clear the plot clues of the film. Those who have different opinions or are also seeking arguments can discuss them together.

Lambert and his son are both people with the ability to escape from the body. Once their souls are out of the body for a long time, they will be remembered by ghosts floating in the underworld, and they may be occupied by ghosts. The film is mainly divided into two lines, one open line, tells the story of the fight and anti-scramble between the elder son Dalton and the red-faced ghost, and the other is a hidden line, tells the story of the fight and anti-scramble between father Josh and the old ghost woman. The brilliance of this film is that its main line is not the open line, but the dark line. At the beginning, it is hidden deeply, and as the plot deepens, it surfaced a little bit, and it was not until the end that people suddenly realized it.
The
opening of the film is an upside-down chandelier, and then gradually reversed.
(Inverted objects usually have special meaning in movie language, and this inverted chandelier is closely related to the main character in the film, Josh, because there will be repeated scenes of another boy Dalton sleeping in the room. , So the different chandelier became one of the important basis for distinguishing two different boys, and this chandelier became an iconic symbol of the 8-year-old Josh.)
The
lens is pulled down by the chandelier, Below is the boy's room, the sleeping boy.
(This boy is not the eldest son Dalton, but his father Josh when he was 8 years old.)
The
camera moves to the right side of the boy’s room and enters the living room. A figure appears on the living room window, and the camera continues to move to the right. At the end of the door, we saw a terrifying ghost, an old woman with a pale face holding a candle. The title INSIDIOUS will appear.
(The language of this set of shots has already started the film, which implies that the old woman is the Insidious person in the film, and the little boy who appeared before is the object of the
Insidious .) Insidious: adjective, meaning insidious, secretly harming, Insidious, seductive, (disease, etc.) unknowingly worsening.

After the opening caption, the first scene is the early morning wife Renai waking up to the thunderous snoring of her husband Josh.
(The reason why the wife looks back is because they have been married for many years, and she still hasn’t gotten used to her husband’s thunderous snoring. This is the first foreshadowing in the film. Although it’s common for an adult man to sleep and snore, he has a body like Josh. It is quite unusual for a standard young handsome man to snore like this. In fact, this is that Josh's soul has been replaced by the old woman. It is not Josh who snores, but the old woman who occupies Josh's body.)
The
Lambert family just moved to one. In the new house, Renai went downstairs and was cleaning up a messy living room. The eldest son Dalton came and told his mother: "I don't like my room."
(The eldest son, Dalton, is a person with the ability to get out of his body, and this is an old house with a strong sullen spirit. As soon as he came to this house, his unowned body after his soul wandered immediately became the target of the ghosts. Of course, he will feel uncomfortable, so he doesn’t like his room. Of course, this detail can be completely ignored. It is all due to the child’s resistance to the new environment. However, if you add his younger brother and the infant The little sister’s common discomfort and fearful reaction, this is not a detail that can be ignored.)
The
mother and son look through the old photo album at home together. There are many photos of his mother Renai when she was young and when she was young. Dalton felt that her mother was when she was young. It's very different from now, so I also want to see the photos of his father Josh when he was a child. But his mother told him that there were no photos of his father when he was a child in the old photo album at home.
(Josh’s photos before the age of 8 always showed an old ghost woman by his side, and as time progressed, she was getting closer and closer to Josh. Later, after Josh’s mother Lorraine asked someone to help him exorcise ghosts, In order to prevent him from reminiscing about the past, he collected all the photos of him when he was a child, and never took pictures of him. Therefore, there is no photo of Josh when he was a child in the old photo album at home.)

Josh When washing in the morning, she brushed her gray hair in the mirror.
(By the way, the excessive care of a few white hairs is not the behavior of the young man Josh, but the subconscious action of the old woman.)

Renai put the books that had been cleaned up and scattered on the floor back into the bookshelf.
(Renai thought it was the children who messed up the books she had packed, but the children did not admit that they had touched those books. Then who touched those books? "Ghost" knows!)

Exterior view of Lambert's new house.

When Dalton was playing by himself on the stairs, the warehouse door opened automatically.

Dalton walked into the warehouse and fell down when he climbed the ladder to turn on the lights in the warehouse, and then he saw a terrible sight.
(This is where Dalton's soul was later imprisoned by a red-faced ghost. The scary sight he saw was probably a red-faced ghost.)

Josh applied eye cream after brushing his teeth. (The same is the subconscious action of the old woman.)

Dalton fell asleep.
(Note that there are two other characteristics that distinguish the sleeping Dalton from the 8-year-old Josh: one is the angle, and the other is the color. The 8-year-old Josh’s shooting angle is frontal, and the color is black and white except for the title part, while Dalton’s The angles are all sideways and colored.)

There is a strange shadow swaying and approaching outside the window of Dalton's room.
In the
early morning, my father couldn't wake up the sleeping Dalton.

Upon examination by the hospital, Dalton was in a coma, did not respond to stimuli, and had no sleep cycle, but there was no brain damage or infection, and the scan results were normal. The doctor had never seen this situation before, and I don't know what caused his coma.

Three months later, Dalton was still unconscious. When he returned home, the nurse was teaching his mother how to take care of Dalton who was in a coma.

Renai heard an abnormal noise from the baby room monitor. At last she heard a low voice saying: "You can't do anything." "I want, I must come out, I want him!"
(This is the voice of a red-faced ghost. He said that he must come out of the underworld. He wants Dalton's body. Only by occupying Dalton's body can the ghost come out of the underworld and enter the Yang realm, which is the world.)

There are more and more unusual things happening in Lambert's house. Someone knocks on the door at night, but when the door is opened, there is no half figure outside.

Renai heard the little daughter crying, walked into the baby room, and found that there was a scary ghost in front of the bed.

Josh didn't want to face those weird things at home, and began to escape, making excuses to go home late.

Some fragments of memory began to flash in Josh's mind.

An old woman with a veil pushed open a door.
In the
room lies a sleeping little boy (8-year-old Josh).

Renai found blood paw prints on Dalton's sheets.

Renai complained that Josh was escaping when he went home late every day, but Josh replied, "I didn't escape the pressure, I just used my own way to face it."
("Use my own way to face it" It was the old woman, not Josh. After the old woman invaded Josh's body and was reborn, she forgot her previous life. She instinctively wanted to forget the past, so that she could live her new life safely and securely. And the home appeared. The weird things of the past, the fragments of past memories that kept appearing in her mind made her feel uneasy, so she instinctively adopted an evasive attitude.)

Josh slept alone on the sofa in the living room and fell asleep.

The little boy (8-year-old Josh) who was sleeping in the room appeared in Josh's dream.
(After this shot, there is a brief blackout in the film to separate the dreams of two different people. The first one is adult Josh, and the next one is Dalton's. The former is black and white, and the latter is colorful.)



After the
black and white dream becomes dark, it becomes a colorful dream. A set of zooming shots-corridors full of red candles; old houses from far and near; Dalton sleeping, and then two devil paw prints printed on the windows of Dalton's room.
The
Lambert family can't stand the strange things in the old house, so they moved again.
When
grandma Lorraine came to help clean up the new home, she was shocked to see the family carnival of her son's family.
(Because she never took pictures of Josh since he was 8 years old, and Josh herself doesn’t like being photographed. Actually, it’s not Josh who doesn’t like being photographed, but the old woman. Ghosts don’t like being photographed. Because that would make them appear as they were. The reason why this photo did not capture the old woman is because at this time the old woman has been reborn. She has already occupied Josh's body. She is no longer a ghost, so she is a normal camera. I can’t photograph her. But subconsciously, she still doesn’t like being photographed, just like snoring, pulling gray hair, and applying eye cream.)

Josh feels very much that his unreligious wife asks the priest to come to the house to exorcise ghosts. Puzzled. Mother Lorraine told him that Renai did see the ghost, because she also saw the ghost in her dream, and the ghost told her that he wanted to claim Dalton's body.

The ghost in Dalton's room that Lorraine saw in his dream. The ghost pointed to Dalton and asked for his body.
As
Lorraine was talking, the ghost in the dream suddenly appeared behind Josh in reality.
After
a commotion, the three rushed into Dalton's room, which was initially inaccessible. The room was in a mess. Dalton, who was in a coma, also moved from the bed to the ground. Several blood paw prints were printed on the bed sheet.

Lorraine invited the exorcist Specs and Tucker to his son's house.


Tucker used a self-made camera to take a photo and detected it. Suddenly, he caught a pair of ghost twin sisters and was frightened.

Specs and Tucker felt that the situation was not good and immediately invited the old exorcist Elise. Elise saw that Josh said that he was much older than before and that she and his mother were old friends. But Josh had no impression of Elise.
(After the old woman invaded Josh's body, she naturally had no impression of his memories before the age of 8. Because the memories before the age of 8 remained with Josh, who had left her body and could not return, and wandered in the "deepness". )


Elise saw the ghost in the dark Dalton’s room. Elise described the ghost as having a blood-red face, dark eyes, like two black holes, hooves on the feet, and slender nails... In her description Specs Using a sketch to outline the appearance of the ghost, Renai grabbed the sketch that was being drawn.
The
horrified Renai turned on the light in Dalton's room and looked over where Elise saw the ghost, but saw nothing.
(Note that the chandelier in Dalton’s room is different from the chandelier in the little boy’s room at the beginning of the movie. It can be distinguished by different chandelier that the two little boys lying on the bed are two different people, one is Dalton and the other is 8-year-old Josh.)

Elise explained to the Lambert and his wife the truth of what happened in their home: Dalton was not in a coma. It has nothing to do with falling down the ladder. His body is here, but the spirit body is not. These dirty things follow you to your new home because it is not the house that haunts Dalton.
There is a kind of person who has the ability to let the soul leave the body and go to different places in the form of the soul, and Dalton is a very skilled soul out of the body.
Dalton's soul has been out of the body while sleeping for a long time. From a very young age, he thought it was a dream, so he didn't feel scared. Because he was not scared, he ran too far and then got lost.
Dalton lost his way in a place called "Deep Shadow". It is a world that transcends the earth, but it is all around us. It is a place without time, a dark realm full of battered undead, one that is not suitable for living people. Place, Dalton is there.
The problem is that Dalton's spirit body left, only the flesh, an empty shell, some undead knew about this, because they could smell it, so they gathered around him. They all wanted to enter his body, because they longed for life and longed for the chance to be resurrected.
However, there are other evil spirits with more evil hearts and more sinister intentions. These are the things in this picture (red-faced ghosts). It has only one purpose for stealing Dalton's body, which is to torture and make others suffer. It is doing everything possible to occupy Dalton's body, and it is the closest to his body among the many evil spirits who want to steal Dalton's body.
These evil spirits cannot enter the living body at will, because it takes time and energy to cross the two realms, and the longer Dalton's soul leaves the body, the weaker the connection between the two, and the easier it is for him to be occupied by evil spirits.

When Elise explained the truth about what was happening to the Lamberts, Josh fell into deep thought, and something in his memory slowly emerged. The memories that gradually emerged in the depths of his mind made Josh deeply disturbed, he instinctively adopted an evasive attitude once again, and he rejected the way Elise proposed to save Dalton.

On the one hand, Josh dared not face the truth, on the other hand he was worried about his son Dalton, who was always unconscious. Later, he found his hand-drawn drawings in his son's room, and those drawings had to make Josh admit the truth of what Elise said.
(The old woman is actually not as vicious as the red-faced ghost. Her purpose is to be reborn, not to murder others [except for the soul whose body was stolen by her].
Freud believed that the human psychology includes consciousness and unconsciousness. unconscious phenomenon and can be divided into so-called preconscious preconscious and subconscious, is the ability to enter the consciousness of experience; the unconscious refers can not or difficult to enter into the consciousness of experience, which includes original instincts and desires.
awareness The relationship between the preconscious and the subconscious is: consciousness is only a part of the preconscious; the preconscious is located between the conscious and the subconscious, and plays the role of an "inspector", strictly guarding against the instinctive desires in the subconscious from breaking into the consciousness; the subconscious is always active Actively, when the "inspector" relaxes his vigilance, he will seep into consciousness through disguise and wait for an opportunity.
If the entire consciousness of human beings is likened to an iceberg, then the part that emerges belongs to the scope of conscious consciousness, which is approximately occupied by consciousness. 5%, and 95% of the consciousness hidden under the iceberg is the power of the subconscious.
If we apply Freud’s iceberg theory in this film, we can understand it like this: the rebirth old woman is instinctive in order to be reborn. He chose to forget his previous life, and try his best to continue "his" life as Josh, which is her rebirth. Therefore, the consciousness structure of the physical body of Josh became like this-the 5% of the conscious consciousness that surfaced was taken by Josh 95% of the hidden part hidden under the iceberg is occupied by the old woman. The preconscious who plays the role of the "inspector" will always guard against the subconscious part, the old woman, from breaking into the conscious part of Josh's life.
So as long as the subconscious part below the iceberg is not touched, Josh can basically live like a real Josh, and he will love his wife and children like a normal husband and father. But after a series of strange things at home, Josh's subconscious was touched little by little. As an "inspector", his preconscious tried to prevent the subconscious from further invading, so he repeatedly chose to escape, and the 5% of his conscious made him As a father, he has to worry about his son in danger. In the end, consciousness broke through the barrier of preconsciousness and decided to save his son Dalton at all costs, thus creating conditions for the subconscious mind to break through the defenses of consciousness. )

Josh finally agreed to let Elise help Dalton's soul return to his body. Elise uses a special device to start a dialogue with Dalton's soul, which is translated by Specs to the Lambert couple. Dalton said he was avoiding someone with fire on his face because he would hurt him and he couldn't find a way out. Then, Elise heard another evil spirit say to her, "Bitch, I know who you are, I want to tear you apart and swallow your internal organs!"

After the conversation ended, Dalton suddenly stood in front of everyone in a sleepwalking state, overturning the table with super energy, destroying everything, and attacking the people present. Various evil spirits also appeared one after another.

Elise grabbed Dalton's head and shouted, "Leave this body, leave this body!" The
evil spirit left Dalton's body, and Dalton collapsed on the ground and fell into a coma again.

Tucker replayed the video taken in the psychic conflict to Specs afterwards, and found that Dalton had just been manipulated by the red-faced evil spirit, not occupied, but the evil spirit was very close to Dalton's body.

Elise sensed the seriousness of the situation, so she invited Lorraine, and she personally told her son Josh a dusty story about his childhood: Dalton's ability to get out of the body is due to heredity, because his father Josh has this ability.


When Josh was 8 years old, he was often frightened when he went to bed at night. He said it was because an old woman would come to him every night.


At first Lorraine ignored what her son Josh said, but then she also saw the old woman in Josh's photos. At first she thought it was a problem with the camera, but then she found that every picture of Josh would have the old woman appearing, and she was getting closer. At last she was so scared that she went to find Elise to get rid of ghosts.

Josh has no impression of these photos. Elise told him this was because suppressing Josh's memory and the ability to get out of his body was the only way to prevent the old woman from occupying Josh's body. So later Josh's mother hid all those photos according to Elise's suggestion, and never took pictures of Josh ever since. He gradually forgot everything, but deep down in his heart, he was always afraid of taking pictures.
(The exorcism was unsuccessful, and the mother who thought it succeeded stopped taking pictures of Josh, and stopped showing him those pictures. All of these helped the old woman who had occupied Josh's body forget the past and start a new life with Josh's new identity. As a result, "Josh" also lives more and more like the real Josh.)

After learning the truth, Josh agreed with Elise's suggestion and used his ability to go out of his body to bring his son Dalton back to the "deep part" in person. Josh came out of his body under Elise's successful hypnosis.

Josh was searching in the dark "deep part" and saw a little boy showing him the way. This little boy is not Dalton, but 8-year-old Josh.
(A person has only one soul. The real Josh's soul is this 8-year-old boy. After his body is occupied by the old woman, he can only wander in this "deep part" and cannot grow up. Then I saw this 8 Whose soul is the old Josh? After occupying Josh's body, it replaced 5% of his consciousness with the soul of Josh's old woman.)

The direction the little boy was pointing was the old house where the Lambert family had moved away, the house where Dalton fell into a coma.


After Josh walked into the old house, he saw a girl with a gun shot and killed his parents and twin sisters.
(Pay attention to the smile of the girl with the gun. She killed her parents and sisters with her own hands, but she laughed very happily. Why? Because her soul has been occupied by the devil, and that devil is the red-faced ghost who is trying to invade Dalton's body. There is only one purpose of embezzling the body of others, which is to torture and make others suffer. It is not the girl who kills, but the red-faced ghost who has invaded the body of the girl.)

Josh came upstairs again, this time the warehouse door opened automatically , Josh walked in and saw a red door, the same as Dalton drew before.

After Josh repelled the black shadow that appeared in front of the door, he opened the red door and walked in, a corridor lined with candles on both sides.
(The same scene appeared in Dalton's dream before.)

Josh finally found Dalton, who was crying, and helped him remove the fetters that had been handcuffed to his feet and prevented him from moving.

Josh fought back against the red-faced ghost who had imprisoned Dalton's soul, holding Dalton and escaping the red door, out of the warehouse, downstairs, and out of the old house. He hugged Dalton and returned to the dark "deep part", after which various ghosts appeared around their father and son. Elise had to ask Renai to call them to guide them out of the "deep shadows."

The souls of Lambert and his son finally returned to the house where their bodies were, and then the father and son separated to find their bodies.

Dalton noticed that the red-faced ghost was also following him, so he hid everywhere.

Josh saw the old woman again in a mirror.
(Mirror is often a vocabulary with special meaning in movies. In this shot, there are two reflected objects in the mirror, one is Josh and the other is an old woman; but there is only one entity standing in front of the mirror, which is Old woman. This shows that the soul that escaped from the adult Josh's body is the old woman. She couldn't recognize herself in the mirror because all her own memories were pressed below the 95% iceberg and exposed to the surface of the water. In that way, 5% of her consciousness kept telling herself that she was Josh.
All the ghosts that appeared in the film were the old woman with a candle in her hand, and the candle in her hand means that the ghost has been reborn, and she has successfully occupied Josh’s body. It's only temporarily detached, so she is different from those unowned ghosts.)


Josh kept questioning the old woman in the mirror.
(At this time, the lens rotates 180 degrees around Josh, and the subject in front of the lens is changed from the old woman to Josh. No matter how the lens rotates and changes, Josh and the old woman are not in the same picture, and they are facing the same mirror. This Explain that the person in front of the mirror is actually the same person, whether he or she, he/she is just talking to himself.)

"Josh" continued to yell the old woman in the mirror, telling her to leave.
(The camera continues to rotate. At this moment, we see that the other side of Josh is no longer the old woman, but the room where Yang Jie's own body is.)


With the last shout of "Josh", "Get out of the way" Open!" The old woman retreated quickly from near to far in the camera, and the next shot was Josh's physical body suddenly waking up in the world of Yang.
(These two sets of shots clearly show that it is the old woman who enters Josh's body again.)


On the other side, the floor of Dalton's room was dark, and a depression angle shot was pushed toward Dalton from far to near, and then he also woke up.
(The yin on the ground, the angle and speed of the camera zooming in, and the music, etc., all show that it is not his own soul that enters Dalton's body, but the evil spirit.)

Dalton ate after waking up Special food, grandma and mother are very happy.
(Dalton has been invaded by evil spirits, and the parents still don’t know it. Just like Josh back then, he was invaded by ghosts and grew up for two or 30 years. His mother and exorcist also didn’t know it.)

Elise's face suddenly changed when Josh handed over the photo, and then took him forcibly while he was not prepared. "Josh" shouted, "Why are you doing this? You know how I feel, why do you do this? Why?..." He threw himself at Elise and strangled her throat.
("Josh" looked at the photos when she was a child, and said that she hoped to forget the past again. In fact, it was the voice of the old woman. She hopes to forget everything like the last time and start a new life again. She wants to forget the past. Born, continue to live a quiet life like Josh, but Elise insisted on exposing her, so she became angry and strangled Elise. She questioned Elise’s words meaning: Although I am a ghost that occupies other people’s bodies, I have been born again. I don’t want to hurt people anymore. I just want to live quietly. Why do you still break the peace when you know this?)

Renai walked upstairs when he heard the noise, but he saw a terrifying death Elise, picking up the camera that Elise had dropped on the ground before he died, looked at it, terrified with fright. At this time, the movie flashed back to the moment when Elise's face suddenly changed. It turned out that when she took the photo that Josh had handed over, she found that Josh's hand was abnormal. It was not a healthy man's hand, but a ghost's hand.


Elise picked up the camera and pointed it at Josh. Josh on the opposite side instantly turned into an old ghost woman, so she rushed to Elise who was taking pictures.

Renai, who learned the truth, suddenly heard someone calling her behind her. The person who was supposed to be her husband was already standing behind her.

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  • Dr. Sercarz: [about Dalton] There is no brain damage that we've detected. Technically, yes, he's in a coma. He doesn't react to stimuli. He has no sleep-wake cycle. But there's no brain trauma or infection. His scans are all normal. To be honest, I've never seen anything like it.

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