Minutes of the post-viewing symposium on Eric Rohmer's work "Summer Story"
/ Organized by Fan Daming /
Time: 15:30-15:45 pm, May 19, 2017 (Friday)
Venue: Henglu Art, No. 202, Nanshan Road, Hangzhou The lecture hall on the ground floor of the museum
(the scene after the viewing of Eric Rohmer's work "Summer Story" at Henglu Art Cinema)
Participants: (Preface to the speech) Fan Daming, Zhang Bin, Yu Mingzhu, He Ji, Wang Yulin, Chen Qi, Sun Fengfeng ( Viewers: Fan Dayin, Zhou Hongze, Zhu Songfa, Wan Bangyan, Ji Boqing, Zhang Yusu, Jiang Tianhong, etc.)
Moderator: Fan Daming
Record: Sun Fengfeng This
film chose a young man as the first protagonist of the film. The story takes place in the south of Brittany The coastal town
of Van Damien: Unlike other stories in this series, Rohmer's "Summer's Tale" chose a boy or young man Jasper as the first protagonist of the film, and wrote about his life in adolescence, including his love life. state. And where does this summer's story take place? It is in Dina, a seaside town in the Brittany region of France. There won't be a small place like Dina on the regular map. From the conversation between Jasper and Margo at the beach in the film (the first time she met her who was working here at the Moonlight Pizza Shop), we know that When they say south, they don't mean the southernmost Mediterranean coast of France like Marseille, Cannes, or Nice—that's around 44 degrees north latitude, but it's all about Brittany. Brittany is a peninsula of western France deep into the Atlantic Ocean. It is near 48 degrees north latitude, which is equivalent to the location of Harbin in northeast China, which is the authentic north in the eyes of the Chinese. Perhaps because of the warm Atlantic current, there are such summer beaches on the southern coast of Brittany. Since Jasper is from Rennes, north of this seaside area, and Margot is from Saint-Brieuc further north, they both call it the south, which is just the south of Brittany. So in terms of the temperature of the sea water in summer, it should be said that it is still relatively cold, which was also mentioned in Jasper's dialogue.
The hazy desires of the young Jasper. It's friendship, it's love, I can't tell the difference
Zhang Bin: The young Jasper showed hazy desires, friendship and love, and it was a little unclear. On the issue of love, Jasper obviously can't end it all.
Sun Fengfeng: Finding a partner is easy, but difficult is really difficult. Jasper's failure, I think, is due to "footing three boats". Three women who love him reject him because they feel he's not sincere with them.
When Reina delayed the date, the other two girls intervened. This situation was not caused by Jasper
. . Since married people are allowed to choose divorce, not to mention the mutual choice and non-choice of young men and women in the love stage. The word "everyone" should now be used as a "neutral" objective expression, which is fine, because there are indeed such cases; if it is used in a derogatory sense, it must be inconsistent with a larger number of facts , and it is also inconsistent with or contradicts the marriage laws, including divorce laws, of most countries in China and abroad. The situation of Jasper in the film, on the surface, seems to have the so-called "foot on two boats" or "three boats". In my opinion, it is actually in the true state of the choice or hesitation period of love. There is nothing to blame. Of course, the choice should be a single choice, but it must be a choice from multiple, otherwise it doesn't matter. In addition, even if the initial choice should be given the freedom to go back. In fact, Jasper came to this town to date the lover who had already agreed before, and the object was Reina, but Reina missed or delayed the date. It was also at this moment that the other two girls intervened, and this situation was obviously not caused by Jasper himself.
Jasper's living state may reflect the commonalities of human beings, and it is a portrayal of young people's changeable youth and restless times.
Yu Mingzhu: The male protagonist of the film, Jasper, is a handsome young man who plays music, reads mathematics, and looks lonely. He is still hazy and confused about the love life he is facing or coming. Is it the hormonal passion in his body, the uncertainty of his purpose in life, or his indecisive personality? This can inspire us to think and discuss. The three girls with Jasper have different personalities: Margo's open-mindedness, Su Lian's wildness, and Lena's fickleness, but they are all under the unique life background of blue sky, white clouds, sea and beach. of dialogue, hugs, etc. The yellow and white monotonous buildings, the daily life and interior decoration of ordinary people, etc. we see are still similar to the B&Bs we have seen in French and European and American towns in recent years. All of the film's performance is so casual, concise, indistinct and realistic. I'm thinking, maybe Jasper's living state reflects the commonalities of human beings, especially the portrayal of young people's changeable youth and restless times? The girl Jasper really wants to date, Lena, should be said to be the girl he likes, but I think it's the worst. The film seems to have too much dialogue.
Jasper really lacks impulsiveness in front of girls, and does not seem to have a strong desire to pursue
Van Damming: As long as we compare the relationship between Felicity and Charlie in "The Winter's Tale", then we will feel that Jasper really lacks impulsiveness in front of girls, and does not seem to have a strong desire to pursue - of course, not to mention. Compare that to the "love at first sight" frantic pursuit of Henry Van Cleef in "Heaven Can Wait." In fact, this is also related to the premise of the film's setting - as soon as Jasper appears on the scene, he is already in love with Lena, who is in this town to date. When he didn't meet him on a date, he first met Margo by chance, and he always seemed passive in front of Margo. He refused to invite him to dinner twice. Margo kept teasing him, obviously more mature than him. more, and he and her have always maintained (or been maintained) the boundary of pure friendship - Margot also stated in advance that he has a boyfriend who is a soldier; if the two have a vague love, let him I feel like a sibling love. As for his acquaintance with Su Lian, it was also accidental and passive. Su Lian and Margo were from fellow villagers and old acquaintances. Su Lian wanted to communicate and travel with Jasper that morning, to a certain extent, to borrow him to get rid of the acquaintance in the nightclub. The entanglement of a tall handsome guy. Therefore, it should be said that Jasper himself is also subjectively opposed to "stepping on two boats", and he himself has such an expression.
Margot, who studies ethnology, is not suitable for his wife
He Ji: Men will be disgusted by any woman who is enthusiastic about any man. I think that's the case with Margot, who studies ethnology. She is not fit to be a wife.
The psychological depiction of the characters in the film is more delicate, and it is reflected in the characters’ behavior and language.
Wang Qulin: In the film, Jasper faces three girls. When we talk about love, we just talk about it. We can choose from many aspects, whichever one is better. Most suitable. In the case of confusion, men and women are different, and women are changeable. Jasper made a calm choice and compared step by step, the first girl Lena dated was not a good match for him. Margo, the second girl he was looking for, was the right one, even though he was at odds with him. And he and that girl, Su Lian, belong to the same heart. It should be said that everyone has youth, and there were several women I pursued back then, but in the end I was alone. I have come to appreciate the cruelty of reality. Unfortunately, I have pain in my life, and I feel it deeply. The film's psychological portrayal of the characters is more delicate, which is reflected in the characters' behavior and language. The three girls have different personalities, indicating that the director has a certain experience in life.
From a friend to a lover, there must be a process, and men should be responsible for their actions
Chen Qi: I think Jasper, a young man, seems half-hearted. In his interactions with them, it was no longer pure friendship. (He Ji inserted: If they were just ordinary boyfriends and girlfriends, they would not go to a faraway island together.) What does the film show? Of course there are cultural differences between the East and the West. My idea is that there must be a process from being a friend to a lover, and men should be responsible for their actions.
Jasper is still attractive to girls including Margot, so why?
Fan Daming: Whether it is two boats or three boats, the relationship between "one and three" is objectively shown in the film. Judging from the conversation between Margot and Jasper, Jasper is still attractive to girls including Margot-he does have his strengths in terms of figure, age, appearance, education and cultivation, etc. . The important point here is that in addition to studying mathematics and designing, he also understands music, can compose, and can play guitar. I don't know if this is still the case for today's post-90s and post-00s girls. In our young age - the generation roughly the same age as the Republic, how attractive a guy who can play guitar should be to girls, really makes you Incredible! At least in a city like Shanghai. Another point is also very important: Jasper's attraction is just as he said, he doesn't really love Lena, who is going on a date, and the reason why he wants to go on a date is just to keep his promise. There is nothing wrong with people. Judging from the film, his interest in studying composition is no less than his interest in finding a girlfriend. Why is this, maybe because he is immature, he himself said, "I'm not so curious about people. I don't like to observe people, I'm not an observer, I'm nothing"; and a handwriting expert can count him "It's not until you're 30 that you're enlightened, emotionally, physically, intellectually." Boys who have such many strengths appear to be withdrawn and passive in front of girls because of their immaturity. This is exactly the devil's law in interpersonal and love relationship studies - "play hard to escape"; Jasper invisibly occupies or He really doesn't know that he has won this and formed such a charm for girls - maybe he won't understand until he is 30 years old.
Organized on June 9-10, 2017, supplemented on July 1-2
Editor's Note: This summary is the 138th summary of the discussion since the establishment of Hangzhou Henglu Art Film Bar.
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