/Fan Daming/
Time: October 25, 2014 (Saturday) 10:45-11:15 AM
Venue: Henglu Art Museum, No. 202, Nanshan Road, Hangzhou The ground floor lecture hall
(Henglu art film bar George Heikenluper’s work "Factory Girl" after viewing)
Attendees: (Preface) Fan Daming, Jin Aiwu, Pan Jialai, Chen Xingsheng, Yang Yuehui, Cai Ling, He Ji, Zhu Xilin, Huang Fangyue, Wang Shujin, Song Xianshe, Zhang Xiaoping, Zhao Ruying, Tian Ying, He Ruming, Zhu Jianyun, Niu Yuzhu (viewers: Gao Yuejian, Zhu Ying, He Tianhua, Zhang Zhenghui, Huang Gang, Zhu Songfa, Li Bingdong, Wang Haiyan, Zhang Yusu, Zhang Yuguang, Fan Dayin, Weng Xiliang, Wang Yuefang, Ren Zaijing, Wang Si, Luan Qiuyao, etc.)
Host: Fan Daming
Records: Huang Fangyue’s
film uses flashbacks, and is developed through interviews with others in the hospital before Yidi was alive
Fan Daming: "Factory Girl" is about the tragic story of an American girl who entered the show business in the 1960s, from becoming popular to becoming addicted to drugs, and finally ending her life when she was less than 30 years old. The film is based on the way the heroine Edie was interviewed at Santa Barbara Kotki Hospital before her death (1970), using flashbacks that recall the past. It involved the later POP artist Andy Warhol in the United States, and the famous country folk guitarist Bob's career. It is written in the film that Andy Warhol has taken a fancy to Edie and made films for her, and these films are not mainstream Hollywood movies in the United States-so-called "theatre" movies or box office movies, but are underground movies of independent productions , Without large scale and large investment, they are often documentary or documentary short films (such as the filming of "The Horse"). ). Yidi's fate is indeed worrying when he enters such an art circle or entertainment circle. From the perspective of Andy Warhol, of course we all know that he was mainly through his reproduction and photocopying of "Pop" art in the form of prints, the so-called "contemporary art" or "post-modern art." ——For example, the continuous work of Marilyn Monroe in four directions, etc.——It made him popular and leading the trendy art scene in the United States, but to a certain extent, it can be said that Andy also popularized him through " "Factory Girl" Edie allowed him to accelerate his fame.
The film is a tragedy. The heroine did not grasp herself at the peak of her crazy and beautiful life.
Kim Aiwu: This film is a tragedy. The heroine did not grasp herself at the peak of her crazy and beautiful life. She was very kind, but she did not have the consciousness to protect herself, nor the ability to protect herself. Although she was talented, she couldn't use it anymore, it was only a flash in the pan. In the real world, there are quite a lot of people like her. They are degenerate, take drugs, go their own way, and finally reach the point where they are incorrigible. Of course, her ending was caused by many aspects. We have seen the ruthlessness of the art world and the bullying of her by social evil forces, especially when she is involuntarily involuntarily, but the main reason is that she does not take good care of herself. From this film, we can get a lot of lessons in this regard.
Through this film, we can also look back at the current literary and artistic circles in China
Pan Jialai: The film describes the state of literature and art in the United States in the 1960s under economic development. Through this film, we can also look back at the current literary and artistic circles in China. We also have ugly phenomena such as drug abuse and prostitution. Some literary and artistic works appear to be exaggerated, worthless, and cannot touch people's hearts. General Secretary Xi held a symposium on literature and art in order to correct this situation. I watched the sequel of "Little Times" a few days ago, but I don't want to watch it, because there are too false things in it, and the reality reflected and the attitude of people expressed are not benign or positive things. However, the post-80s and post-90s now like them. These works have many so-called "fans", so the box office is very impressive, but this is only a false prosperity, it is like drugs, and it will end up like the protagonist of today's film. The shooting of this film illustrates the West’s position and attitude towards that era and the chaotic state. They dared to show them all through film works. It should be said that they have the power of reflection and criticism.
The fragility of human nature can be found in different people's lives, and it is often the most typical in the literary and art
world. Chen Xingsheng: The heroine Edie has studied fine art but instead of painting, she goes to make movies. In terms of character, she is too conceited and too vain. Through her interactions with the artist Andy Warhol and a guitar singer, she showed the fragility of her human nature, and of course she ended in a tragic ending. The fragility of human nature and other people's weaknesses, these problems are different in people's lives, and they are often the most typical in the literary and artistic circles. People in social life, especially in the performing arts industry engaged in drama and film, tend to go astray if they don't pay attention. This requires us to be vigilant. For ordinary people, what is acceptable is something that shows positive social energy.
Edie’s later development and ending are obviously related to her family background
Cai Ling: When I first watched the film, I thought it was about Andy. He said he used American methods to deal with the United States. After seeing it, I realized that the protagonist is Edie. The film describes how Andy used Edie’s beauty and simplicity to make his movies before he became famous; he felt that Edie was in line with his artistic taste. Edie's later development and ending are obviously related to her family background. China now also has a lot of prostitution and drug abuse, but the actual rate is not high in the art world. Just because they are public figures, the influence is great, especially now that the media is developed and the communication power is great, it seems that they are committing crimes everywhere. In fact, this happened in China before. And to do such a thing, ordinary people have no ability or financial means to do it, such as touching drugs.
Different people must have different lives. What kind of life you live in is what kind of life
He Ji: The film reflects the work and life of a circle of artistic people in the United States 50 years ago. Different people must have different lives. What kind of life do you live in? If you do something with negative energy, if everyone thinks it is bad, you will have no market. If you do it, the central government will criticize it.
The film uses documentary techniques to reflect the reality, allowing the audience to make their own judgment after
watching it. Yang Yuehui: I can see from the film that Yidi has five men who have influenced her. One is her father. He has status, but like a beast, he took possession of her when she was 8 years old. Both her parents should be capable people, and of course she inherited the talents of her parents. But she has no father’s love or the warmth of a normal family; the second is a male student at the Cambridge Art School who has a crush on him, the third is Chuck who came to East New York with him; the fourth is the artist Andy, for She made movies and made her a famous person. The fifth is guitarist Bob. He and Bob fell in love at first sight, which affected her and Andy's relationship. The film shows her artistic experience for only three years. She is not clear about the distinction between art and life, so she can deal with it casually based on her passion. Her drug abuse was affected by a female friend in Andy's "factory", and she couldn't quit. The film reflects reality with documentary techniques, allowing the audience to make their own judgment after watching it. Life offers many ways, and the choice is up to you. Edie’s depravity in adulthood was mainly caused by herself, and was the result of her failure to grasp the basic goals of life.
As a biopic, it has great historical authenticity and credibility, and it is also quite revealing and critical.
Van Daming: From the "first time" when Andy asked her when filming a movie for her in the film, we know that not only was her father Fazi possessing her in the family, but his two older brothers, Mindy and Bobby (both She had a history of mental illness and entered the mental sanatorium, and Mindy later died) and had been related to her. It was said that her father was going to send her to a mental sanatorium, but she swiftly fled the family and went to eastern New York to develop. So there was a statement like her at the beginning of the film, saying that she didn't even have the courage to glance at the "family portrait" photo at home, because she couldn't know what was hidden behind their smile in the photo. A photographer from "Life" magazine came to her home for an interview and wanted to take a photo that embodies the "perfect American family", showing the happiness of their middle-class family, but Edie admitted that it was not the case at all. This not only introduces or hints at the dark and dirty side behind her decent family, but also invisibly criticizes the one-sided and false prosperity of American media reports, which is a hypocritical and false side of the so-called " "American civilization" is also a kind of irony. Generally speaking, as a biopic, this film has its great historical authenticity and credibility; it is quite revealing and critical for the American society and family at that time, including the American culture and American art at that time. The circle, of course, also includes the heroine; but obviously, the director still has a lot of regret and sympathy for this unfortunate girl. Regarding the director of the film, George Heckenlooper, we are indeed very unfamiliar. After checking the information online, it turns out that he suffered a heart attack and died of a sudden heart attack shortly after the filming of the film. He was born in 1963, died in 2010, and lived only 47 years old.
Organized on October 28-29, 2014, supplemented on October 31
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