Minutes of the post-view symposium on Bergman's work "Silence"

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Minutes of the post-view symposium on Bergman's work "Silence"
/ Finished by Fan Daming /

Time: May 26, 2012 (Saturday) 10:50-11:25 AM
Venue: Lecture Hall of Henglu Art Museum
( Henglu , No. 202, Nanshan Road, Hangzhou) Art film bar Bergman’s work "Silence" after viewing)
Participants: (Preface) Fan Daming, Jin Aiwu, Ma Yile, Chi Yunfei, Chen Yading, He Ji, Wang Xiling, Cai Ling (Watchers: Chen Xingsheng, Huang Huawei, Yu Bowen, Peter Ji Qing, Fang Yong roots, etc.)
Moderator: Fan Daming
record: dyestuffs

film shows the difficulties in interpersonal communication, the underlying reason is the nature of human solitude and loneliness
Fan Daming: Bergman's "silence" him One of the "Silent Trilogy" (a "Faith Trilogy" or "God Silence Trilogy") should mainly be about human desires, through the two sisters East and Anna on the journey. The emotional conflict in the hotel is manifested. "Silence" may imply the difficulty of communicating with others, and another reason is due to the external environment. They have gone abroad and came to a small town where they can’t understand each other. Can’t communicate. Among them, through a little boy—the younger sister’s son John, and the indoor shots of him walking around in the corridors of the hotel room alone, I feel that Kubrick’s "The Shining" shows that. The taste of the hotel environment. But it shows the difficulty of communication between people. The main or deep reason is the loneliness and loneliness of the human nature. When it comes to my sister East, it is the concentrated expression of her disease (end-stage lung disease) and conflict desire (instinct of human life) of

the sisters' inability to communicate mixed with resentment of emotional conflict, also contains conflict Sense and sensibility
Jin Aiwu: between their sisters because of different personalities, culture and other aspects can not Communication. Both men and women have sexual pursuits and desires. When my sister sees her sister going out, she brings people into the hotel and communicates with others. There is also a conflict of emotional jealousy between the two.
Ma Yile: This kind of conflict also contains the conflict between rationality and sensibility in human consciousness. The film portrays what belongs to human nature. Due to war and other circumstances, their family is incomplete. The elder sister is rich in knowledge and feelings, but she is very depressed when she is ill. The younger sister is a normal person. Due to external stimulation, in an abnormal age and environment, her "Extraordinary" can also be seen as the "need" that she still has the kind of emotional "normal" communication. All three people have the need to be lonely and to resolve loneliness. The conflict between older sister and younger sister is that older sister is used to imposing her own ideas on younger sister. That child is also lonely.
Fan Daming: That hotel and the veteran of that hotel are also lonely. For example, he just eats in the cabin alone.

People may be achieved by the desire to achieve communication between people and overcome loneliness
Fan Daming: sister is a writer or translator, a great spiritual pursuit; sister is the mundane world of vulgar woman, have emotions. However, no matter how great and noble the sister's spiritual pursuit is, it seems that it is difficult to resist the same emotions and desires that she has. The film finally concentrates the contradiction on the inner conflict of the sister, showing how difficult it is for the sister to cross or struggle with the "desire" level-because it is the instinct of life. People may partly realize the communication between people and partly overcome their loneliness through the realization of desires.
Chen Aden :( original record is unknown, to be completed)
pool Yunfei :( original record is unknown, to be completed)

is better than riches, and the desire suitors but distracted, often painful
Fan Daming: movie interspersed with a group of gnomes The performance should be metaphorical. They also lived in the same hotel, and the boy broke into their house accidentally and contacted them. Did the director use this to express the thought that contented people are always happy, but those who have desires are restless and often painful. These freaks simply put aside a certain life goal or requirement, they actually live faster-this is reflected in their performances and the happy emotions they return from the performances.

People are trapped by a net, and their freedom is actually very limited.
He Ji: Actually everyone is trapped by a net. These dwarfs are also in charge.
Fan Daming: From the scene of the tank driving to the street that suddenly appeared at night, I also came up with this concept-possession. The street is occupied by tanks, the older sister is occupied by disease, the younger sister is occupied by desire, and all the protagonists are occupied by loneliness and loneliness. Human freedom is actually very limited.

Tanks should have appeared within the meaning of
what Kat: the emergence of the tank, not broadly refers to the background of the war, there should be referred to.
Fan Daming: The film was made in 1963, and it probably doesn't refer to "World War II".
He Ji: At the beginning of the film, there are scenes of children on the train looking out the window of a train carrying armaments. It may refer to actions taken by the Soviet Union against Eastern European countries, such as the repression of Poland.
Van Daming: Perhaps it refers to the Soviet Union's cessation of the so-called "Hungary Incident" in 1956. But such speculation is of little significance. Next, I would like to invite Sister Wang to talk about her views.

In fact, the director also reveals the humanity inexorably ugly place where
the king rhino Ling: I heard you speak, think we think of the movie's heroes are very tolerant. I thank you all for your speeches,
Fan Daming: Please tell me about your intolerant thoughts.
Wang Xiling: Actually, the director has his own opinions. He criticized these two women and revealed the ugliness of human nature ruthlessly. For example, the description of her sister, her almost hysterical scenes, wrote her so ugly and terribly. Of course, the last letter she left to her sister explained her understanding and tolerance for her sister, and showed what they still had to do, as if it had opened a skylight to a dull house.

Van Daming: To truly interpret this film and Bergman's other films, maybe it can't be solved by watching this film again today. Thank you all for your speeches. Let's watch Woody Allen's movie together next month.


Finished on June 7, 2012

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The Silence quotes

  • Anna: How nice that we don't understand each other.

  • Johan: Why doesn't Mommy want to be with us?

    Ester: Oh, but she does.

    Johan: No, she leaves whenever she can.

    Ester: She's just gone out for a walk.

    Johan: No, she hasn't.

    Ester: She hasn't?

    Johan: She's with somebody. They kissed and kissed. Then they went into a room. I saw them myself.

    Ester: Are you sure about that?

    Johan: I saw them.