Night knight
Hello everyone, and welcome to the first round table of the 2nd day of the 22nd Faroe Island Film Festival main competition round table. I am the host of The Night Rider. The second movie we discussed is "Eclipse" directed by Antonioni. Before going further, please talk about the reasons for this score based on your own site scoring, and briefly talk about your feelings about this movie!
Souvenir guests IcrusJoe
I scored 4 stars. I have only watched Antonioni's "Zoom" before. This time I watched "Eclipse" and felt very good. From the beginning of the conversation between the two people in the room, Antonioni set up a strange atmosphere. It is hard to imagine Antonioni when he was shooting. How does the scheduling of the project unfold.
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3 points, the protagonist in An Gong movie is never an actor, but the building and space inside. The alienation and silence of the city are vividly shown in the light and shadow composition. To engage in objects, to fall in love, and the rest of the need to panic, security and public affairs are calm and quiet. It is better not to meet each other, and an actor is worse than an empty mirror.
Guest A7M2 Facilitator
3 stars. Like An Gong’s previous works, after watching the film, he seems to understand the relationship between the sexes in the film, but his shots are very beautiful in black and white.
Souvenir guests IcrusJoe
In addition, Alain Delon is so handsome, his face has become a kind of neutral and spiritual adjustment in Ann's lens, and it has become just a good reflection of Monica's middle-class pretentiousness and confusion.
Special guest, no one at midnight
Alandron is really handsome.
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Delong is also very creamy here, so fresh and tender.
Souvenir guests IcrusJoe
In addition, the stock exchange has become a kind of heterogeneous space, and the alienation characteristics of capitalism appear here, which provides some hints as the source of the alienation phenomenon.
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(Antonioni) used an eight-minute empty camera set to express the lover’s missed appointment. This is a compelling pretense. Wong Kar-wai’s voice-over and slow motion look like pediatrics in comparison.
Host The Dark Knight
An Gong is the source of the King of Sunglasses.
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In this way, Xiao Wang's hypocrisy is still not qualified hahahahahahaha.
Night knight
Distinguished guests and any relatives and friends who are willing to comment, give a brief comment on An Gong’s famous "Trilogy of Love", especially the position and imagery of "Eclipse" in it. If you haven't read the trilogy, let's comment on the views of modern love in "Eclipse".
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An Gong’s modern love, I can understand that I would rather take the world’s people instead of the world’s people. Anyway, as far as one's own love is the most, let others talk about it.
Guest A7M2 Facilitator
Because I didn't read it too clearly, I can only say that it is the depth of love.
Special guest, no one at midnight
What I like about "Eclipse" very much is that at the moment when the two of them haven't completely separated, they have already begun to show a sense of depression. That is, in the time of saying goodbye by the door, you have seen a flower that seems to be They withered at a rapid speed as if they were poisoned, and then they entered the long shot, but before the long shot, the emotional state of the two people was more subtle, and they were stuck very tightly.
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Hong Huang: "I haven't had forty men, how do you talk about liking? What is liking? Like, isn't it just a minute of hormonal rippling?" It seems to have the same effect as Antonioni.
Souvenir guests IcrusJoe
(Like) the emptiness of love floating in space, (thinking of) Deleuze's affection. Those encounters on the street were terrible.
Host The Dark Knight
The emotional state of "Eclipse" is well laid out. Deleuze commented on the last segment of "Eclipse", the 8-minute empty space, which his old man called "quiet time", which obliterated all nihility, and it was so awesome.
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Deleuze believes that objective images and subjective images are not static. In a film, the two may continuously slide from one pole to the other, just as solids and liquids in the material world can be converted to each other under certain physical and chemical conditions. This process of subjective and objective changes can be seen in the works of many European film masters. For example, Antonioni’s masterpiece "Eclipse" transitioned from a calm and restrained observation of the operation of the stock market at the beginning to the emptiness of the protagonist’s heart, which is an objective transition. To the charm of the contrast formed by subjectivity.
Souvenir guests IcrusJoe
He (Deleuze) has a theory of emotion: various emotional forms are born from the experience of the body. Due to different encounters, emotions always change and flow between sorrow and happiness. This emotional flow is called "emotion." Of course, my understanding is that lust is floating in the air, and two people are together and love each other deeply, but they cannot release the lust of the body.
Special guest, no one at midnight
That empty shot is indeed a god. I think the key word for me in Antonioni's movie is fashion, just like Faye Wong's version of I love freckles, the most fashionable thing in the world.
Night knight
Regarding the famous eight-minute airspace ending in film history, the guests feel that they have seen similar expressions in movies before or after An Gong or other directors. You can briefly list them and talk about similar reasons.
Souvenir guests IcrusJoe
It's similar to the tennis court at the end of "Zoom In", but it's a bit different. The end of "Zoom" is to explore whether the ability of images to state the true original appearance is limited. I think "Eclipse" should represent the desolation, strangeness and threat of the human world.
Guest A7M2 Facilitator
I've watched "Night" before, but I don't remember that there is a similar shooting method for the night.
Special guest, no one at midnight
Almost the whole movie of "The Scream" is the materialization of "the wasteland in the heart".
Night knight
An Gong is a well-known Italian Communist Party. Among the left-wing directors, Hong Zhong Dalyu, everyone thinks it is possible for a film like An Gong that "does not require so-called characters or characters" to be completely divorced from people? Is there any political nature in this? ?
Souvenir guests IcrusJoe
I don't really understand what it means to be completely separated from people? Can it be said that the characters in the film are exploited?
Host The Dark Knight
Exploitation needs to be based on making full use of it and squeezing it out. Many people say that space is a role in An Gong movies.
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Godard doesn't seem to need characters or characters anymore for later creation. Still (movies) have to use "characters" or "roles" to express the meaning, although it will weaken a lot, completely withdraw, there is no such (completely separated from people) movie at present.
Special guest, no one at midnight
I don't think eh, I think the spaces in his films are all externalizations of people's thoughts or emotions. The so-called barrenness of the world is actually the barrenness of the spirit.
Souvenir guests IcrusJoe
It feels impossible to completely separate from people. (Antoni’s movie) Take out the desires of a normal person, and then use a camera to shoot this body without desire and torn by the soul, and a house built with desire.
Host The Dark Knight
For "Eclipse", I think An Gong kept revisiting the old place to present the contrasting meaning of presence and absence. One is because the extended rest is Deleuze’s "quiet time", which has already transformed the main body and interpretation of the skyscape. Meaning has eroded away, leaving only a fixed piece of time in the emptiness of urban space. Second, in the contrast, that is, the so-called application of feelings, can we understand the meaning of feelings in modern life. In this progress, the falsehood of the originally seemingly pessimistic feelings is constantly being unmasked, so that the possibility of the feelings becoming true remains. I think this is also the fact that An Gong has been committed to showing the false, and finally unmasking the true ultimate. Pursue.
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