Summary of two recent high-frequency comments:
1. "Movies are artistic creations. Gotham City is a fictitious city. Arthur is a mentally ill. No one will support him. If you look at it as a true story and think it is provocative, you are a naive one."
2. "This movie is very real. Arthur is a normal and honest person. You think it has loopholes because you are too happy to have experienced suffering and do not understand the suffering of the people at the bottom. You said Arthur did not do the right thing. You are just a silly!"
Well, in order to criticize me, the two commentators made a tacit reconciliation under the circumstances of disagreement?
I would like to thank all my friends who are rationally commenting. Whether you agree with me or deny me, you are the light of humanity.
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Since this comment was issued, it has been subject to a lot of personal attacks. I would delete these comments before, but not anymore.
I found that there are many normal people who brought themselves into Arthur, and there are also many people who feel that other people’s opinions are different from theirs.
From my own perspective, I wrote a film review with a different argument from others, and I was about to be maliciously attacked by others against me and my family. This reminded me of Hong Kong now. I believe that if the group of people who scolded me had the opportunity to surround me, everyone would grit their teeth and want to punch me.
Their logic is: "I am weak and society is unfair to me, so like Arthur, we have the right to hurt others, and we still stand on the moral high ground."
Then some people said that the film was not provocative.
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I hope everyone can communicate with me rationally: if you don’t read the full text or understand it, you will not reply to the criticism; the personal attack comments will not be responded to and deleted directly; I will try to understand and respect the three different views, but I will not Change your position.
Reasons for Samsung: 1. The logical loopholes in this movie are obvious; 2. The social influence varies from person to person, and what I am worried about is the mentally handicapped and vulnerable group, which has nothing to do with normal people or ordinary people. Those normal people who have the ability to live but feel that "the society is sorry for him" please don't look for a sense of existence here. I am also a person with a miserable experience. I still work hard to live. It is not my outlook on life to be miserable. If you have no mental illness, no disability, and no abuse from childhood, then I will not sympathize.
Put the last sentence of my comment to the front to express my position: "Anti-social movies should not only make people feel good, but they need to be disgusting to a certain degree of inhuman crimes in order to play a healthy role. balance."
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In the early morning of July 20, 2012, at the premiere of the movie "Batman: The Dark Knight Rises" in Aurora, Colorado, a gunman wearing a gas mask presented to the audience watching the movie in the Aurora Shopping Center cinema It fired and threw a tear gas canister. 12 people were killed and 58 people were injured.
The gunman was named James Egan Holmes. He dyed himself red hair before committing the crime. Some police said that he called himself a "Joker" and loved watching Batman. Confirmed). At that time, Warner Bros. cancelled the Paris premiere of "The Dark Knight Rises", and AMC Cinemas also announced that they would no longer accept masked or armed guests.
The release of "Joker" in 2019 once again caused controversy in the American film critics and media. The families of the deceased in the Aurora shooting also jointly sent a letter to Warner Bros. to express their concerns. At the same time, within one week of its release, a theater in California was temporarily closed due to threats of terrorist attacks. The US military also issued a notice to be careful about possible terrorist attacks during the film's release.
Not to mention whether the Aurora shooting in 2012 was directly related to the clowns. Now it is impossible to tell whether there are two parties who have different opinions. But I still want to express my opinion, that is, any film and television work has an impact on society, but the depth and breadth of the impact are different according to the original intention of filming.
For example, my favorite violent movies such as "A Clockwork Orange", "Born Murderer", and "Taxi Driver" are textbook-like existences in film history. Although the content is bloody, I am not worried about their social influence. First of all, they are niche and have little influence. People who are generally not interested in alternative movies will rarely come into contact with them. Secondly, the murderers in the film are really anti-social personality. They are not the weak of the society, and they are not without the chance of survival, but they are inhumane. Alex tortured and kindly helped his mistress, Mickey and Melody ’s indiscriminate killing, Travis ’s Nazism, etc. These are crimes that cannot be explained by common sense, and we may be susceptible to their life experience. The background is a bit pitiful, but their behavior is hard to resonate.
But after watching "Joker", I found that Arthur was portrayed too differently from the other murderers: he is the weak in this society, he is bullied, he fought back, he is gorgeous, he is the top card in DC , He has countless teenage fans. His innocence makes people feel that everyone who bullies him deserves to die .
The film has the core of the cult film, the packaging of the literary film, the plot of the commercial film and the global promotion method . This makes people feel that the producer is really either stupid or bad: stupid is that there are too many logical loopholes in the plot, and it deliberately creates contradictions in order to show the depth; the bad thing is that if all these logical loopholes are intentional, then this is a kind of Naked social incitement.
I want to talk about Arthur’s character loopholes
First of all, at the end of the film, we learned that Arthur had been abused since childhood and lacked maternal love. Such people are prone to develop adult personality disorder.
Facts have proved that Arthur's series of weird behaviors are indeed caused by this. He doesn’t seem to communicate normally, he always laughs uncontrollably, his thoughts are always negative, and he has suicidal tendencies... But it seems to be to arouse sympathy and empathy. As a person with serious psychological defects, Arthur has been too much. Kindness , so that except for the misery of the world, and some abnormalities in mobility and understanding, we did not see him exhibiting the typical negative emotional behaviors in personality disorder , such as indifference, selfishness, irritability, and suspiciousness , at least in the first half of the film . , Jealousy and so on.
He is kind to others, filial to his mother, making faces to the children on the bus, offering flowers to Little Batman, stabbing people with a knife and stabbing people to the point of being jealous. He can also let the little dwarf make a living... He is a simple and kind little angel. So from the perspective of Arthur's state, his performance is more inclined to low energy and mild autism , rather than personality disorder. This has nothing in common with the clown who doesn't care about people after being demonized and likes to play mindfuck's logic games.
Deliberately glorify violence
Arthur and the reason for all the negative manifestations of personality disorders stripping, is to put all the atrocities rendered as "weak opposition" . Several Arthur’s "breakdown points" are arranged in the movie. In my opinion, they are all very "grabbing horses"-being bullied by street gangsters, framed by colleagues, because they are making children laugh in the bus, and by their mothers. scold? Dismissed, deprived of social welfare, deceived by his mother, mocked by Murray, punched by Thomas Wayne? Um? Even such a reasonable gentleman can't help but do it? But people just came to you to confess because of a misunderstanding. Can't you comfort me? People have collapsed, so they deserve to die? ……Yes, everyone is so hateful and hateful, so 80% of the plot in the film is about how others are sorry for him, and he is only responsible for the weak and pitiful.
Besides, how could the collapse of Arthur himself cause riots in the city?
It is also quite pleasant that the subway murders can be magnified by the citizens to class contradictions. After all, these so-called "workplace elites" have to take the subway to and from get off work just like ordinary people, without seeing any privileges at all.
The most interesting thing is that before the motive of the crime was found, Thomas Wayne made incredible remarks in a radio interview. It probably means that my employees have made outstanding contributions to society. The murderer must be the society. The scum at the bottom...This content is inexplicably irritating. How did Thomas become an out-and-out scum stick? I don’t think anyone with a long brain will speak this way, let alone a highly educated and successful entrepreneur.
Let’s talk about the clown supporters who beat and smash on the street in the later period. It is most likely that they are some street gangsters (you said to me, wearing black clothes, masks, left-hand bricks and right-handed laser pointers), for example, they robbed in the first place. Arthur's work card, a bad boy who beat him wildly. So, who the hell is sorry for him? Whose interests does he ultimately represent?
On the one hand, the class contradiction was not explained clearly, which triggered a paradox; on the other, he eagerly described the desperate journey of Arthur, a person with personality disorder who had been abused since childhood, as a beautiful transformation, and summarized it as the cause of all future violence. This is the same as supporting prostitution of a sex addict. It seems reasonable, but in fact it is the use of groups with psychological disorders. And this film uses the behavior of people with mental illness to show that normal people are ignorant and indifferent to this group. It is a matter of careful consideration and extreme fear.
Arthur killed people because of his own disease, and was eventually used by a group of violent and selfish mobs to become the "leader" of the villain, which was contrary to his original purpose of killing. He was driven to ruin step by step because of illness but with love in his heart. Even he himself repeatedly said "I have no interest in politics". But what kind of mentality did his followers and counter-controllers go to the streets to burn, kill, and looting? Are they really poor people like Arthur? At the moment Arthur was surrounded by supporters to become a real clown, did he control the mob or did the mob control him? Could it be that the super-villain of IQ that we know well is actually just a puppet leader clustered by street thugs with poor comprehension skills? This...this is absolutely wrong...fall! ~~
Let’s talk about the beautification of the negative character
From the very beginning, Arthur's weak and humiliated image gradually turned into a clown with good taste. The handsome appearance, even the dance steps and background music are amazing, and the sense of the camera is getting stronger and more poetic.
For a person who cannot understand normal laughter, I can't help but wonder whether he can understand universal aesthetics. It is important to know that a person with a personality disorder will have a narcissistic tendency to a large extent. If he has a normal understanding of "handsome", why would he be disgraced when he fantasizes about participating in the Murray show instead of wearing a full suit. state? Of course, the visual impact of "becoming a supermodel overnight" is very useful in commercial movies, so can you stop claiming that "Joker" is a movie with depth?
Why are you worried?
Some people will say that all this happened in Gotham City, all fictitious, scared.
But the clown's influence is obvious to all. Talking about the gap between the rich and the poor and social injustice will always touch the nerves of the audience.
Stephanie Zaharek wrote in a review for Time Magazine: “We don’t know what this disease is like: In the United States, a person like Arthur appears almost every two weeks. , Bringing about a large-scale shooting or violence."
Another film critic, Ryan Latanzio, said, “There are people in our world who have such a potential tendency to use Arthur as their model of life: those lonely, uncreative white men, There are always angry groups around them inciting and provoking them, so they are more likely to be attracted by hateful ideologies. At this time, the role of the clown may resonate with them ."
The crime of the clown seems so reasonable, so righteous, and so distressing. However, none of the dead in this film is truly "damn". They may bully the weak, or lie and deceive, but they are not felons who need to be sentenced to death. But why do we pity Arthur so much and hate these so-called "wicked people"? Combining my previous concerns, all these seemingly rationalized violent murders are just hoaxes carefully packaged by filmmakers, in exchange for the audience's dizzying sympathy for the weak.
Exaggerating social issues, making killings seem logical, and making people applaud , this is the theme of this movie.
A tribute to the American shooting?
The beautification of the character and appearance of the villain, the praise of murder, such mainstream commercial films make me shiver. What makes me even more puzzling is the U.S. film censorship system and the U.S. gun policy. The loose film censorship system is a kind of welfare, and the loose gun policy is the trust of the people. These two things, listen to them separately, how beautiful they are. But when the two are put together, does the US government really worry about it? How should the American people face the shooting incidents caused by the violent film culture? Well, did I worry about eating radish? But almost all the American media, even the American military, are worried.
This is why the American cinema AMC will prohibit audiences from wearing clown costumes in theaters, whether they are wearing masks or special effects costumes and any way of covering their faces, while Landmark Theatres will completely ban actors wearing role costumes. Audience, in case the tragedy happens again.
Trump once said that violent games and film and television works would lead to juvenile delinquency. Robert De Niro Benro scolded him back and said that this conclusion was bullshit. But just after watching the movie of "Joker" in Venice recently, Ben Luo said that because of the 12 years of the Joker movie theater shooting, he hoped that Warner Bros. would no longer provide political donations to the American Rifle Association. Heh...I don't know who the big winner is. In the end, only ordinary people are hurt.
Joker's success is inevitable, and Jacques' acting skills burst (although the tearing of the plot will cause his acting to sometimes look too hard), and the entertainment effect is full. But I remain skeptical about its content and depth. I really should have the lyrics: when I grow up, I will become you... I am old, and unknowingly become a mobile State Administration of Radio, Film and Television.
Safety first, entertainment second. The more lively and beautiful the film is, the more praise it is, the more worried I will be. Because anti-social movies should not just make people feel good-looking, but to a certain extent, make people feel sick about cruel crimes in order to achieve a healthy balance.
Finally, I want to say something to the children who are experiencing difficulties and setbacks. Arthur is a poor man with a personality disorder. He is different from ordinary people. Therefore, please don't make excuses for your failures, and don't vent your dissatisfaction on others. If you want to establish an idol, watch "When Happiness Knocks on the Door" several times. It is based on real people and real stories, which is more inspirational and helpful.
PS. Do you remember that the clown in "The Dark Knight" doesn't smoke? I am a person who has quit smoking for many years. When I saw the new clown's cigarette, I immediately realized that it was a placement advertisement.
Since the Marlboro era, everyone has advocated a healthy life, and it is rare for the main film and television characters (even the negative characters) to smoke. Probably because the tobacco industry is too depressed, and you have to secretly implant the consciousness of "smoking is cool" in the audience? Tsk tusk tusk... The master who can shoot "The Hangover" is also a businessman who promotes consumption.
Sister Radio and Television’s warm reminder: Do not learn to be clowns for the waste youth, and do not learn to smoke for teenagers.
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