FIFF22丨DAY1 roundtable "Tsubaki Sanuro": He is here, he is here, Kurosawa is here again

Jaden 2022-01-09 08:01:15

The host is no one at midnight

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the second day of the round table of the main competition of the 22nd Faroe Island Film Festival. I am the host Midnight Nobody. The second film we discussed is directed by Akira Kurosawa. "Tsubaki Saniro", before going further, please talk about the reasons for this score based on your own site scoring, and briefly talk about your feelings about this movie!

Assistant Host Carter

He's here, he's here, Kurosawa is here again

Newspaper guest Muzhi

I gave the "Tsubaki Tatsuro" a three-star magazine. This film can be regarded as a sequel to "Intentional Stick". It has successfully created the image of a tough and soft Ronin knight, with superb martial arts on the outside and wit and kind heart on the inside. The concept of "Tiang" can also be seen in Uncle An's "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon", which shows that Akira Kurosawa has had a great influence on several generations of martial arts movies in East Asia.

Forum guest O. Yin

I gave Tsubakiro 3 stars, it should be said that it is an exquisite genre film. In terms of drama and characters, Tsubaki Sanjuro, nine samurai, interior, villain leader, villain camp, a group of warriors, and two ladies constitute several levels of the character, rather than a simple confrontation between good and evil-nine samurai will also face Tsubakiro Somewhat suspicious-this not only conforms to the characters, but also becomes a driving force for the twists and turns of the plot. In terms of scene scheduling, Mr. Hei's skill is nothing to say. I don’t think the “good knife hidden scabbard” that can be seen everywhere in the short comment area is so powerful, it can be considered icing on the cake at best, so in fact, the film is not inferior to many high-quality Hong Kong martial arts films in terms of position, just like " "Good knife hidden scabbard" feels the same, but I really don't think it is so awesome.

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3 points, it is the unreasonable Kurosawa Akira fan. In fact, I agree with everyone, so I won’t repeat it (Applause.gif)

Special guests, we, Minhee

With 3 stars in the field, Toshiro Mifune is very suitable for this kind of rough but fine knight role.

Guest aof

I gave "Tsubaki Tsubakiro" 3 in the magazine. I really like Kurosawa's scheduling of multiple people within the frame, and the relatively facial characterization to highlight the maverick Tsubakiro. The plot is simple but efficient. What surprised me was that Akira Kurosawa's handling of the bloody b-level film in the ending duel scene made me feel very fresh, and I have never seen it in Akira Kurosawa movies before.

The representative of the film picker. I know her a little bit.

Kurosawa talked about the use of blood plasma in the last duel. Onlookers at the scene thought that the actor was really stabbed. His face was pale and very nervous. Teruyo Yakino even screamed. Of course, it looks like that now. The spraying of plasma in the field was a bit too much, and the overpressure caused the scene to be somewhat exaggerated.

Guest aof

I really like the treatment of plasma.

Forum guest O. Yin

It is suspected that Tsui Hark used this for reference in the end when he was undefeated in the East.

Assistant Host Carter

I (the field magazine) gave me two stars, so there is nothing to talk about. Akira Kurosawa played at an intermediate level. There is no breakthrough, and there are one or two amazing things that do not make me feel beyond his time.

Special guests, we, Minhee

This kind of commercial film is very delicately shot. The "depth" is definitely not as good as his other masterpieces, but it looks good, thinking of "Midsummer Future".

The representative of the film picker. I know her a little bit.

Let me add a little background knowledge. With the hot screening of "Intentional Stick", the box office revenue reached 330 million yen, so Toho requested an ending, so this "Tsubaki Saniro" was created. However, at the time, Akira Kurosawa did not want to make a sequel. The screenwriter Hiromitsu Horikawa I rewrote a script called "A Day in Peace", which strengthened the comedy elements of the film and raised fencing to a new level. The actor Katsuki Kobayashi, who played the captive Kimura, said that the main character was not originally called Tsubakiro, which is very common. The swordsman, he relied on his wisdom to defeat the enemy, rather than superb swordsmanship.

The host is no one at midnight

The first topic I want everyone to talk about is the characterization of the film, because I think this film is a very good group performance, of course, it is impossible to make every character have flesh and blood, but about "the tool person in a genre film should "How to shape" I think it is a textbook: three male protagonists with opposing images, other functional supporting roles, and the few female characters can all be discussed.

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The tool man is what he does at any stage, and he takes the box lunch after he finishes it.

Forum guest O. Yin

Partially agree, not so much as a group of characters, but more like a group of people. Female characters have the same meaning as a good sword and scabbard. Generally speaking, their personality and the points they bring out are not necessarily related to the story.

Guest aof

The most fascinating character is Tsubaki Sanjuro, who is superficially clumsy, but is meticulous in handling the crisis. And after being influenced by his wife, she learned to constrain. The character arc is fresh. The processing of other tools is very facial, not much new.

Host, no one at midnight

Like the 9-member group, it is a very happy shaping. The supporting roles in the genre film are originally like this. It is enough to grasp a specific feature and enlarge it.

Forum guest O. Yin

Nakadai Tatsuya's character personally thinks that he should think about it to see how it is more glamorous. The nine-member group is very good.

The representative of the film picker. I know her a little bit.

Tsui Hark once commented on Kurosawa's movie characters: "Most of the characters in Kurosawa's movies are positives in pessimistic lives. Their values ​​have never been contaminated by the reality of society, and the characters in them are more often than not. Sacrificing a lofty ideal is sad, but always maintaining the hope of mankind is a weighty influence."

Muzhi, guest of the show.

The shaping of female characters is also to increase the joy and interest of the movie.

Special guests, we, Minhee

The female characters are well portrayed. Compared with the other samurai film "The Abdomen" of the same year, it is much more vivid

Forum guest O. Yin

Are there any other female characters in "Abdomen" besides daughter?

Special guests, we, Minhee

The daughter in "Abdomen" is a tool man, but in "Tsubaki Saniro", the maid is brave and the wife is wise.

Forum guest O. Yin

I feel that comparing the female roles in the two films is not meaningful, and it is not the core issue.

The host is no one at midnight

Now that you mentioned "Cutting the Abdomen", I would like to let you compare the Japanese samurai movies you have seen, including but not limited to "Cutting the Abdomen" which was directly PKed in the same session and unit.

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"Cutting the Abdomen" still has to dominate "Tsubaki Sanuro", but I don't like Kobayashi Masaki.

Forum guest O. Yin

By analogy, if "Tsubaki Tatsuro" is "The Legend of the Condor Heroes", "Cutting the Belly" is "The Deer and Ding Ji".

Special guests, we, Minhee

I think "Slicing Abdomen" is okay, not as "good-looking" as "Tsubaki Sanuro".

Host, no one at midnight

"Cutting the Abdomen" and "Tsubaki Thirty-One Lang" are mainly different in tone, one is serious and tragic, the other is witty.

Assistant Host Carter

I gave 4 stars for "Cutting Abdomen" and 2 stars for "Tsubaki Sanuro". ,

Newspaper guest Muzhi

I gave 4 stars for "Tsubaki" and 3 stars for "Tsubaki Sanuro".

Guest aof

I also gave 4 stars for "Slicing Abdomen" and 3 stars for "Tsubaki Sanuro". Speaking of other Japanese samurai movies, this one is so malleable that I can't think of other samurai movies for a while.

The representative of the film picker. I know her a little bit.

For example, "Death Sword".

Newspaper guest Muzhi

There are also "Seven Samurai" and "Intentional Stick".

Assistant Host Carter

"Seven Samurai" is pretty good-looking. There are also good works written by Shinobi Hashimoto, such as "Rashomon", "Desire of Life", "Spider's Nest Castle", "Slicing Belly" and "Death Sword" by Masaki Kobayashi, and "The Servant" by Kihachi Okamoto. ", Nomura's "Sand Tool", if I remember correctly, it was all written by Hashimoto Shinobu.

The representative of the film picker. I know her a little bit.

Did Toshiro Mifune and Tatsuya Nakadai collaborate on a lot of samurai movies?

Special guests, we, Minhee

It seems that Tatsuya Nakadai washes his feet.

Forum guest O. Yin

Nakadai Tatsuya's role in the movie starring Mifune Toshiro is hard to say, but the roles of "Slit Abdomen" and "Kagemusha" are good.

The host is no one at midnight

Are there not many comedies for Kurosawa? (The representative of the filmmaker, I know her a little bit: I searched it and it seems that there are not many, it seems that there is "Sengoku Hero".) Then let us briefly talk about the sequence of this "Tsubaki Saniro" in Kurosawa Akari.

Assistant Host Carter

In the lower middle, my favorite one is "Chaos" and then "The Desire of Life".

Newspaper guest Muzhi

Just perform normally.

Forum guest O. Yin

It's medium, I feel that the 8.6 rating of Friends of Neighborhoods is inflated. "Seven Samurai">"Chaos">"Kagemusha">"Heaven and Hell">"Rashomon">"Tsubaki Tatsuro">"Spider's Nest">"Heart Stick">"Red Beard"

Guest aof

I have seen seven Kurosawa Akira in total. At present, I think the best is "Heaven and Hell", this one is relatively modest, and the text is not much extensible.

The representative of the film picker. I know her a little bit.

"Tsubaki Sanuro" is one of the few films by Akira Kurosawa that really affected Hollywood. George Lucas praised the film, and Kitano Takeshi's latest work "Zato City" almost copied a fairly classic duel scene in the film. This is also one of the few more popular films by Akira Kurosawa, although it has always been considered a relatively commercial work. But as the age gradually passes, the charm of samurai movies seems to be on the rise again.

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Sanjuro quotes

  • Chidori, Mutsuta's daughter: It's so quiet, even in the daytime. You can lean back in the hay and feel like you're floating. Enveloped in its scent, you drift into a dreamy haze.

  • Sanjûrô Tsubaki: I'm smarter when I drink.