The power of reason and system

Isai 2021-10-19 09:47:32

A: The movie itself

1. If the whole world thinks that the earth is the center of the universe, would you dare to be Bruno?
If everyone believes that Qin Shihuang is a good emperor, would you dare to rewrite history?
If eleven of the twelve people think you are a murderer, will you be sent to the electric chair?

2. Plot:

Describes a New York youth accused of killing his father and will be sentenced to the death penalty of first-degree murder. Eleven jurors have already found the suspect guilty, and only one (Juror No. 8) felt that the situation was suspicious and insisted on raising objections, and with patience and perseverance, he persuaded the other jurors to overturn the original intention. Finally, this case was almost completely overturned. The verdict of an unjust case was rehabilitated.

3. Reasons for recommendation:
A. The movie itself: The scene of the movie is monotonous and bizarre-there is only one scene in the whole movie, which is a jury lounge, and the small toilet next to it will not exceed 40 square meters! Almost all the plots of the entire movie in one and a half hours took place here. The 12 people serving as the jury in this case must discuss the case with the jury lounge before the case is closed, and must always pass whether the suspect is guilty before the case can be officially closed. This movie is the whole process of discussion from the 11:1 finding that the suspect is guilty to 12 people all finding him not guilty. Excellent acting skills, wonderful dialogues, clever switching, all in one go, the touch of the heart makes people look at the ups and downs, invigorating and refreshing, just one word.

B. Behind the movie:
I. Regarding the jury system: Homicide is a criminal case. For criminal cases, in criminal judgments, the prosecution’s duty is to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Only then can the court convict the defendant. The defense can be exonerated as long as it can prove that there is a reasonable doubt. As for the prosecution and the defense after they have presented the argument, analyzed the evidence, and asked the witness
Is there a reasonable possibility that the suspect is innocent? As long as there is such a possibility, he cannot be convicted. Who will define whether such a possibility exists in the end? jury! Throughout the film, juror No. 8 repeatedly emphasized that I don’t know whether the suspect killed anyone, we don’t know, and it’s impossible to know exactly. But our job is not this. Our job is to find out whether there is such a possibility that the suspect is innocent. As long as this possibility exists, we should acquit him.

II. Regarding discussion and truth:
"This film tries to show people that (under rational conditions) various opinions can be reached through full discussion and argumentation and reach a consensus, and focus on the objective truth." The process from the absolute disadvantage of eleven people to the final comprehensive others does not rely on force, not authority, but rules. There are two rules, one is logic rule, and the other is system rule.

The other eleven people have different backgrounds. At the beginning, the audience
felt that some of them were "reasonable" and some were "unreasonable". At the end, when you think about it, those who are "unreasonable" are also It is still reasonable, at least in the discussion, abide by the basic rules of logic, and demonstrate the arguments through arguments. If you want to prove that my argument is wrong, you can point out that my argument is inconsistent with the facts. My argumentation is not rigorous and the conclusion of my argument is unscientific. If you can't refute me to all of these, then you should only agree with me. For an
argument, I can’t distort my argument with a secret exchange of concepts, and then pull other people’s arguments to the point. In the end, I can’t say anything and then refuse to admit it or ignore it. Juror No. 8 put forward reasonable hypotheses one after another, questioning the evidence presented by the prosecution one after another. Every time he puts forward a hypothesis, someone must first refute him, but when he proves his hypothesis is reasonable, the other party again When no rebuttal can be found, the other party will give up the previous guilty verdict and tend to be acquitted. Isn't this "reasonable"?

The second rule is the system rule, and the specific one here is the voting system. To determine guilty or innocence, it must be passed unanimously, and "no one less vote". The voting process is a concrete manifestation of each juror's performance of his duties as a jury. In this movie, the opinions of many jurors are changing, and some even change back and forth. But the way of expressing their opinions has never changed, vote! Just started to discuss the bottom line, vote, 1:11. Persuade one and vote again: 2:10. Propose a hypothesis, prove one, and vote again, 3:10. . . Until the last 11:1, 12:0, lip-fights were constantly happening, but everyone’s respect for one vote per person is always consistent, and I won’t say that in terms of quantity, we are now 11:1, yours. That vote does not count; in terms of quality, I think you are stupid than me. Your vote should only be counted as half, or even 0.1. One person, one vote, and each vote is equal. This is another rule.


Logic and system, it is these two rules that ensure that the minority can persuade the majority, and a group can reach a consensus based on what they see and approach the objective truth.

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Extended Reading

12 Angry Men quotes

  • Juror #8: [after conducting an experiment to see if the old man could have reached his door in 15 seconds] Here's what I think happened: the old man heard the fight between the boy and his father a few hours earlier. Then, when he's lying in his bed, he heard a body hit the floor in the boy's apartment, heard the woman scream from across the street, got to his front door as fast as he could, heard somebody racing down the stairs and *assumed* it was the boy!

    Juror #6: I think that's possible!

    Juror #3: [from the other side of the room] *"Assumed"?*

    [Everyone looks at #3 as he chuckles]

    Juror #3: Brother, I've seen all kinds of dishonesty in my day, but this little display takes the cake. Y'all come in here with your hearts bleedin' all over the floor about slum kids and injustice, you listen to some fairy tales... Suddenly, you start gettin' through to some of these old ladies. Well, you're not getting through to me, I've had enough.

    [starts shouting]

    Juror #3: What's the *matter* with you guys? You all *know* he's guilty! He's *got* to burn! You're letting him slip through our fingers!

    Juror #8: [brow furrowing] "Slip through our fingers"? Are you his executioner?

    Juror #3: I'm one of 'em!

    Juror #8: ...Perhaps you'd like to pull the switch?

    Juror #3: For this kid? You bet I would!

    Juror #8: [baiting him] I feel sorry for you. What it must feel like to want to pull the switch! Ever since you walked into this room, you've been acting like a self-appointed public avenger. You want to see this boy die because you *personally* want it, not because of the facts! You're a sadist!

    [#3 lunges wildly at #8, who holds his ground. Several jurors hold #3 back]

    Juror #3: I'll kill him! I'll - *kill him!*

    Juror #8: [calmly] You don't *really* mean you'll kill me, do you?

  • Juror #8: [taking a cough drop that Juror #2 offered him] There's something else I'd like to talk about for a minute. Thanks. I think we've proved that the old man couldn't have heard the boy say "I'm gonna kill you", but supposing he did...

    Juror #10: [interrupting] You didn't prove it at all. What're you talking about?

    Juror #8: But supposing he really *did* hear it. This phrase, how many times have all of us used it? Probably thousands. "I could kill you for that, darling." "Junior, you do that once more and I'm gonna kill you." "Get in there, Rocky, and kill him!"... See, we say it every day. That doesn't mean we're gonna kill anyone.

    Juror #3: Wait a minute, what are you trying to give us here? The phrase was "I'm gonna kill you"; the kid yelled it at the top of his lungs... Don't tell me he didn't mean it! Anybody says a thing like that the way he said it, they mean it!

    Juror #2: Well, gee now, I don't know.

    [Everyone looks at #2]

    Juror #2: I remember I was arguing with the guy I work next to at the bank a couple of weeks ago. He called me an idiot, so I yelled at him.

    Juror #3: [pointing at #8] Now listen, this guy's tryin' to make you believe things that aren't so! The kid said he was gonna kill him, and he *did* kill him!

    Juror #8: Let me ask you this: do you really think the kid would shout out a thing like that so the whole neighborhood could hear him? I don't think so; he's much to bright for that.

    Juror #10: Bright? He's a common, ignorant slob. He don't even speak good English.

    Juror #11: [looking up] He *doesn't* even speak good English.