The retarded director forced me to find an explanation that was not retarded

Nico 2022-04-23 07:02:21

Too much brains.

- The final conclusion is that at the beginning of each loop, the group of five (let's call them "the marvelous five", the feeling of being fucked over countless times is really.. marvelous), before boarding the cruise ship, There are already two Jessie, and they are both masked, called M1 and M2.

Jessie (J1) who boarded the cruise for the first time was in a state of ignorance and was not aware of any mirroring situations, and it was M1 that things developed to the point that after she pushed M1 off the ship alive, she was left with J1 and another masked Jessie on board , M2. M2 has not acted in this process.

Then entered the second reset, the second five-member group boarded the tanker, and Jessie here knew what she had to do, which was to get rid of all her partners and call her J2. She is chased away before J1 takes a shotgun to meet Victor in the banquet hall, and she ends up killing M2 before pushing it off the ship (witnessed by J1 on the deck full of Sally's bodies). It was always M2 who killed in the process, M2 failed in the theater but then stabbed Downey and Sally with a dagger.

The third reset, the third quintet on board. From here, in the beginning J1 becomes the masked man M1 in the first stage, killing everyone in the theater. The J2 in the second stage becomes the M2 entering the incubation period. And the new Jessie on board became the J1 of the first stage. The ship returns to its original state, M1, M2 and the new J1, and the cycle starts again from here.

So it can be seen that the story should be composed of two infinite loops nested in each other. J1 - M1 - J1, J2 - M2 - J2. There is interaction between them, for example, J1 tried to save people in the first stage but was destroyed by M2, and J2 was once threatened by J1 to leave the banquet hall. But they don't interfere with each other's cycle, and they each become the character they killed.

There is a key part in drawing this conclusion: because this film cannot explain the initial state of this infinite loop, why it enters the loop, how many people are on the cruise ship at the beginning and what roles are they, so in order to explain reasonably, the most basic assumptions must be made. There are two Jessie's on board at the start.

-Would it be okay if there was only one Jessie on board at the start?

The basis for triggering the cycle is that five people must die (or be kicked off the boat), which means that at the beginning of each cycle, before the new quintet is on board, there can only be one living Jessie on board. But apparently J2 was still on board when the third phase J1 became the masked M1 was pushed down by the new J1. At this point the loop should return to its initial state, which contradicts the assumption that there was only one Jessie on board at the beginning.

So in order to make the loop without loopholes, the assumption of "two Jessie" is necessary at the beginning, this assumption directly leads to the conclusion of two loops, one of which is hidden as a dark line, so it is difficult to think of. But the assumption itself is very vulnerable: why would there be two Jessie in the first place, and how did the cycle begin? In fact, the directors of these crazy things don't understand. Who told you to shoot time travel and do so many complicated sidelines? Your IQ is not enough, so I can only understate it. Moreover, this film is an imitation of the 2007 super-bad masterpiece "Crimes in Time and Space", which was originally a piece of garbage full of loopholes. This movie was so good.

——In addition, let’s talk about the state on land. In fact, his nia is full of loopholes, but let’s look at it that way.

The state on land can actually be verified with the state of the two Jessie on board, that is, the requirements: J1 and J2 have different psychological states and information when they go to sea. J1 boarded the ship in a pure state of ignorance. Just like the title, he didn't know the fart, and he started to die. After so many bad things, he had to become M1 if he wanted to save people; J2 was different, J2 It was because she knew that going to sea was killing her partner, but she went to save the child, so she decisively overturned the aboriginal M2 first, and then turned into an M2. The killing method was extremely sophisticated. Therefore, the forced girl who went to sea for the first time should not be called J1 strictly, but in fact, she should have no experience of these things at all. The original J should be called J*. J* who went to sea for the first time should not be in the mental state of J1, such as cringing and always feeling that he saw a familiar scene (because it was impossible for J1 to go to sea and she died in a car accident on the road), maybe the child was put on someone else's home or being beaten by her and thrown at home or something like that. After the loop appeared for unknown reasons, J* was killed by the returning J1, that is, M1 who fell into the sea, and then J1 took J*'s child to an honorable death; J2 went to sea to save the child after witnessing a car accident. The emergence of J2 is also inexplicable and can only be regarded as ad hoc. Like M1 and M2 on a cruise ship, J2 is produced as a result of no looping. (Unlike M1 who was thrown into the sea and turned into J1, M2 was first killed by J2 before being thrown into the sea and could not return to become J2.) The only possibility is that M2 did not die at the time, and became J2 and came back to witness J1's car accident.

——Summary of the overall context:
cycle 1
J*(J1) goes to sea - friends die - pushes down the living M1 - can't save people - changes to M1 - is pushed into the sea by the new J1 - comes back to kill J* - died in a car accident - new J*going to sea
cycle 2
J2 saw a car accident - J2 went to sea - was threatened to leave the banquet hall by J1 - turned M2 into the sea - turned into M2 - killed - was pushed into the sea by the new J2 - came back and saw the car accident - continue to go to sea
( Here I am just assuming that Masked Man No. 2 (M2) was not killed, trying to explain the appearance of J2 at the scene of the car accident.)

So for the story to be established, Jessie's state should be very different at the beginning of the film and at the end of the film, not Deja Vu, who was deliberately done in the film. But there is another problem. There is no problem when going to sea. Why are there two states in linear time? Then I didn't say anything. It may be that these bad things have created two universes, causing a J* to go out to sea with the mentality of preparing to shoot with Greg and a J2 to go out to sea with a murderous intention and then meet at the cruise ship. The director himself can't tell the story clearly and the audience has to rack their brains to help wipe their buttocks. I just want to say, the director, I'm blaming your uncle.

So the director is actually pretending to be unreasonable. It may also be that he didn't understand it himself, and that his IQ is not enough, so he can't blame him too much. In short, in order to make the whole film logic valid, several assumptions that are very unworthy of scrutiny must be established. My grass is similar to Nima economics. But this one looks a lot more than Macross, that one is a piece of shit.

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Extended Reading
  • Clifton 2022-03-28 09:01:04

    The theme of this story is the futile struggle of a soul who does not want to admit that she is dead. She wants to violate the laws of nature to restore her lost life, restore her lost love, and make up for the harm she once caused her son. And all of this is destined that she will fall into the purgatory created by her own heart, and the endless cycle will go on.

  • Mason 2022-03-28 09:01:04

    The pinnacle of "infinite loop" movies, it hasn't been surpassed in ten years.

Triangle quotes

  • Victor: [pointing at a picture of the ship] Check it out. This is the same ship. This thing's old.

    Downey: Yeah, 1932. It is the same. Here's where we boarded.

    Victor: [reads name of the ship] Aeolus.

    Downey: Aeolus. Aeolus was the Greek god of the winds and the father of Sisyphus, the man condemned by the gods to the task of pushing a rock up a mountain only to have it roll back down again.

    Victor: That's a shitty punishment. What did he do?

    Sally: He cheated Death. No, he made a promise to Death that he didn't keep.

  • Driver: Are you alright?

    Jess: Who are you?

    Driver: I'm just a driver... No point trying to save the boy, there's nothing anyone can do to bring him back. So... Can I give you a ride?

    Jess: Yes. Take me to the harbor.