Don’t delve into it, there is something wrong with the logical architecture

Katelin 2022-12-06 12:30:40

TNG watched 2/3, so this can be considered as a fancier's comment >>>

In order to give this film points, it gave 4 stars, but it is really messy enough in 10 movies. According to the level of sci-fi movies, Samsung is almost there.

Also, those who say that ST11 and ST themes are not inconsistent, why didn’t ST10 also counted in, well, it is actually a goodbye ending for characters we know well, and there is no seek out new life forms, in the episode. The five major themes (contact with new aliens, small conflicts with surrounding races plus years of seeking peace, entanglement with non-main public enemy races that have established diplomatic relations, internal conflicts, friendship, time travel, and parallel worlds) are not particularly focused. Of course, these four themes cannot summarize all the stories of the more backbone TOS and TNG in the ST series, but they should still cover more than 80%.

Let’s take a look at what 1-10 said:

1: Contact with new aliens
2: Entanglement with non-main public enemies who have established diplomatic relations Yes, although I left the suspense back then, it may be strong enough to become an enemy of the Federation)
3: Small conflicts with surrounding races + internal conflicts, friendship
4: time travel, parallel world related
5: contact with new aliens
6: and surroundings Race skirmish plus years of peace + internal conflicts, friendship
7: entanglement with a non-main public enemy race (this is barely enough, I think 7 is messy enough) + time travel, parallel world related
8: and Small conflicts between surrounding clans and long-term peace
9: internal conflicts, friendship + contact with new aliens + small conflicts with surrounding races plus long-term peace
10: small conflicts with surrounding races plus long-term peace + internal conflicts, Friendship + contact with new aliens (well, the last point does not fit, but I really can't think of finding something that fits 10 in the five major themes, let's think of clones as a new race)

The trunks of 10 and 2 are pretty similar, and they are all revenge + almost human, and they hang up, and they think it is a tribute. But watching 2 I feel like watching ST, watching 10 I don’t feel that way anymore.

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Personally, I feel that science fiction movies at the turn of the century are in a transitional period. This one is very typical, with mixed plots, a little illogical, and there is too much to express but not much ink. Anyway, if you haven't watched the tng TV series, the audience will feel that the plot is clear but the characterization is problematic, and the plot does not dare to delve into it.

In short, the plot is a story in which a chess piece abandoned by the villain finds revenge for the decent and fails.

I can see that the enemy’s enemy is a friend. It’s totally unfounded here. It says that the enemy in the past is my friend now. Then we will join together to find a wrongdoer, so that I won’t seek revenge from you... It's illogical!

The following are a few points that are not in line with the big story:

What is Rape of Troi's mind? It has no meaning other than anti-location services for her later.

The clone’s feelings about Picard and his goal were not clear. He began to say that he was saved by the romulan enslaved people when he was young. In the end, he grew up looking for revenge on the earth (not to romulan for revenge), and then those people Just willing to follow him? Ignore romulan completely? Of course, it does not rule out that he was to destroy the Federation first and then come back to find Romulan for revenge.

Also, didn't he wipe out all the members of Romulan at the beginning... From the whole story, he controlled Romulan, but he felt that there was no such thing as blood and blood, and the empire was ignored.

Tom Hardy’s performance can’t be said to be bad, but it’s a bit tender, and he really looks like the old version... If there is a problem with the performance, you have to mention the setting of his character. As I said above, you should show it to this. The characters have too many points, but the problem is that each point is not supported by a reasonable plot. It gives people the feeling that I gave you a goal, and you don’t need to achieve this goal, but I must you achieve it, and you accept it. , But in achieving this goal, I don’t know why I did it.

The clones first need to find Picard's blood to survive; second, they want to destroy the earth; third, they are very similar to the young picard (inherent inheritance); fourth, they are entangled in the relationship with picard (external opposition). He didn’t get the blood, and then he gave up, so getting blood to survive is not the first priority, but of course, in the beginning of his grand plan, living and destroying the earth are complementary; he wants to destroy the earth, this goal is somewhat Strange, but apart from the big BUG that he didn’t seek revenge on romulan but troubled the earth’s people, it’s better to explain. He believes that experience has made him, and that his nature is the most evil, so he wants to destroy the earth. I don’t think he has revenge. The object is a Federation, a human being. He is only looking for the opposite of Picard. He is so extreme that he can only blame Picard for being too noble; from the perspective of his inner character, he has completely eliminated the description of Picard when he was young in the series. He copied his sex, and finished the book; the confrontation between the two external individuals is the topic of cloning, except for the internal perspective (personality can go to two extremes in the discussion of this issue, and the body is the same, but will add The weak item of clone instability) is the only thing that can be discussed externally. In this film, the clone hopes to defeat the ontology and prove the strength of its own inner personality. On the other hand, it relies on the ontology. Go over there (of course, if he doesn’t say that we are finally together, this scene is that he will choke Picard to death), but to be honest, the last plot cannot expand the dependence on this point, the sentence says Inexplicable enough.

Let’s talk about the popular king of TNG, Data, personally, because it was spoiled before watching the TNG series, and the data will hang...so I’ve been waiting and waiting...but of course data is this. The foreshadowing of the block is good, from the personal sublimation to the suspense of the movie itself. However, I transmitted everything in the data to b4 in advance. This plot that appeared not long after the film gave people who watched the film a false hope. There is nothing... Spock is resurrected. We can think that it is a spock, because he is 1. →2→1. If you look at data, even if the structure of b4 is adjusted to be the same as data and can understand the memory of data downloaded before, he is another person, just like the transmission machine copy of the riker in the show. After copying, their life trajectories parted ways. If data is alive and b4 is upgraded, their relationship can be seen in data and lore or thomas riker and will riker. We will not see one person's struggle with the past, nor the rivalry and jealousy of two people, see It will only be nostalgia. So, no matter what, data is really dead in nemisis and will never come back again.

Here are a few

jokes : Riker! You are finally married! ! I have a feeling of "bald scalp, your son finally married out", besides, Pippi said Mr Troi... (seriously, he married out is the foreshadowing of the recovery of their relationship in 9 years)

data Pretending to be b4, he poked Pippi while escorting Pippi, and was reprimanded by Pippi...

B4 kept asking why and then data answered seriously, so he was put into the box.

Pippi, it’s a long time since

you fell down ... Riker, your beard is finally shaved off, how happy will your brain fill your Q...

Data is silly in pretending to be a b4 fashion (this is actually not funny...)

Finally, Picard is really old Now, there is the last part that I feel that he is completely stunned. There is wood... At that time, data was not dead, he was already stunned... Is it sure that his disease similar to Alzheimer's didn't start to attack? ?

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Star Trek: Nemesis quotes

  • Commander Deanna Troi: That was a lovely toast.

    Captain Jean-Luc Picard: It's from the heart.

    Commander Deanna Troi: And you needn't worry. I'm going to brief your new counselor on everthing she needs to know.

    Captain Jean-Luc Picard: Oh, like hell you are. You already know too much about me. But I take it that there will be no speeches during the ceremony on Betazed?

    Commander William T. Riker: No, no speeches and... no clothes.

    Data: [toasting Riker and Troi] Ladies and gentlemen, and invited transgendered species. In my study of Terran and Betazoid conjugal rites, I have discovered it is traditional to present the happy couple with a gift. Given Commander Riker's affection for archaic musical forms, I have elected to present the following in honor of their conjugation.

  • Reman Viceroy: [in a telepathic connection with Troi] I'm with you, Imzadi. I'll always be with you now!