/ Organized by Fan Daming /
Time: 11:23-11:50 am, May 23, 2015 (Saturday)
Venue: Henglu Art Museum, No. 202, Nanshan Road, Hangzhou The ground floor lecture hall
(the scene after the viewing of Roman Polanski's "The Ninth Door" at Henglu Art Cinema)
Participants: (Preface) Fan Daming, Jin Aiwu, Cai Ling, Lu Xin, Du Sumei, Tang Furong, He Ji, Ma Huijie, Sun Fengfeng , Chen Hua, Huang Fangyue, Wu Wanqin, Zhang Xiaoping (viewers: Ji Boqing, Wang Weiwei, Weng Xiliang, Wang Yuefang, Fu Peiying, Zhang Zhenghui, Ma Yile, Zhu Faqing, Zhou Hongze, Fan Dayin, Jiang Tianhong, Zhang Yusu, Han Meidi, Wang Haiyan, Zhu Jianyun, He Tianhua, Ren Tong An, Wang Wenren, Wu Huixian, Chen Xiaofang, Zhang Peihong, Wang Shujin, Wan Bangyan, etc.)
Moderator: Fan Daming
Records: Huang Fangyue is
involved in magic and magic, so many plots or characters in the film cannot be explained by the actual force of nature
Fan Daming: "The Ninth Door" is also called "Devil's Notes", which involves a book written by the so-called "devil", which is the ancient book called "The Ninth Door" in the film. It is conceivable that it is a film about magic and magic. Compared with other realist films directed by Polanski, this is another type of film, or alternative film. Considering the different styles, I didn't want to choose it, but it's hard to choose another film - indeed, as far as my personal collection of discs is concerned, after all, there are limits. After checking the information, Polanski only participated in the screenwriting of the film, ranking third among the three screenwriters; the script is also not original, it was adapted from a novel called "El Club Dumas". Since it involves magic and magic, many of its plots or characters cannot be explained from the reasons of the actual force of nature. For example, it is written in the film that all readers or collectors who come into contact with the book will die, and the specific method of death is exactly the same as the method of death (or hanging or drowning, etc.) of the person in the painting depicted in the illustrations in the book. However, the book is written hundreds of years ago, and the dead are contemporary people, which is strange. But these are precisely the essential characteristics of magic and magic. Magic speaks of so-called omens, prophecies, and so on. There is also the green-eyed woman in the film, the heroine played by the director's wife, who always wandered around the male protagonist Caso inseparably at first, and finally broke out halfway to help, etc., all of which could not be achieved by the natural force of reality. explain.
Balkan has money and status, but his greed is too ruthless and his obsession is so powerful. In the end, his end is also very miserable
. Jin Aiwu: sent Caso to find the Balkan of the ancient book "The Ninth Gate", who has money and status. His book collection is so rich, he originally thought he was a highly respected person, but never thought that he was so greedy and possessed so much that he was willing to spend a lot of money to monopolize that ancient book. Ultimately revealing his true nature, realizing that he is not a refined person.
Fan Daming: Balkan has a large collection of books, which is also related to his publishing. Judging from the information in the film, he has a "Balkan Publishing House", which is a big publisher. He should be the most knowledgeable person, but obviously he only collects books, does not read, or only reads magic and magic. book of. In the end, his end was also miserable, which was equivalent to burning himself to death.
This film seems to have a strong commercial taste, similar to the story of our popular Jin Yong novel
Cai Ling: This film is different from other Polanski films in that it seems to have a strong commercial flavor, and is similar to the story of our popular Jin Yong novel. This kind of story is often about finding some magic weapon or secret book, with which you can overcome everything and surpass everything, even if you reach Mars, you will not die, and finally reach a certain state, and so on. In the West, there are markets for magical things, such as Harry Potter and the Hobicks. Starting from myths, sometimes there are also realistic things. Some of the people and stories told can be clearly explained, while others are actually not clear. I think Polanski's "Bitter Moon" is profound. And this film is more of a commercial value.
The spirit of young people to make things clear is worthy of recognition. A good film can inspire different people from different aspects.
Lu Xin: I have the following opinions: (1) The protagonist, Caso, insists on making things clear; (2) Magic is mixed with people, and the relationship is complicated; (3) Magic is boundless, Barkan believes in it, and wants to achieve it, forming an insatiable desire for this. Here, the spirit of the young man to figure things out deserves recognition, and in the end he did figure things out. I think that a good film, different people, can be inspired from different aspects.
The film is linked one by one, grabbing people's hearts and showing the upward things that the director's soul pursues. This is very valuable
Du Sumei: This film is also a blockbuster. nice. The protagonist has a long way to go to find the book "The Ninth Door". The story overcomes evil with good. The things of truth and positivity eventually overwhelm the things of evil. The director finally gave us warm positive energy. The logic of thinking, the means of expression, and the layout of the story in the entire film can be said to be linked together, capturing people's hearts. The realm of artistic thinking is high and upward. Although the director's personal life experience is not very good, the film still shows the upward pursuit of the director's soul, which is very valuable.
What Barkan represents should be a cult, and he cannot understand what his ultimate goal is.
Tang Furong: The film may express some kind of spiritual pursuit. Difficult to read. Nature is equal to God. What Barkan represents should be a cult. He personally hopes to achieve his spiritual pursuit, but cannot understand what his ultimate goal is: does he want to be equal to God? If man is us and God is God, then what is the devil? Is it above God, above God?
Balkan should have been caught in the book "The Ninth Door", which was a supernatural type of book, and became obsessed . , because they are holy and holy. Demons, on the other hand, represent evil. Usually, "devil" and "ghost" are linked together, and they are called devils. Of course, they are not in reality, nor in heaven, but in hell. The so-called people die, turn into ghosts, and go to hell—the Chinese propaganda superstition spreads the saying of "eighteen levels of hell", the number of which is double the number of nine gates. Obviously more abyss, darker, more terrifying. Balkan should have been caught up in the book "The Ninth Gate", which is a supernatural type, and went into a maddening manner. This "enchantment" is what we call enchantment in our idiom. According to the magical logic of the story, he was actually not possessed, otherwise he would not have been burned to death.
The original owner's wife bought the book back at all costs, as if it was Ma Huijie, who served the licentious activities of the cult group
: watching the video, she began to wonder, and later learned that the three ancient books are true. The protagonist makes a careful comparison of the illustrations in the book, and the authors of the pictures are actually different. The nine illustrations are probably related to the Nine Doors. Finally, the old lady told the truth. And the wife of the original owner of the book bought the book back at all costs, as if to serve the promiscuous activities of the cult. I don't know if I understand that, right?
The film at least keeps us alert to so-called magic and the like, and asks
Sun Fengfeng: I also have a lot of doubts after watching it. On the positive side, the film at least keeps us alert and questioning about so-called magic. For some things, you can appreciate them, but you can't be enchanted. You need to reflect on these phenomena that appear.
The film expresses a positive energy. In the end, it was Caso who successfully pursued
Chen Hua, the goal that Balkan wanted to pursue: the film expresses a kind of positive energy. The death of the baroness had a great impact on Caso, and it also began to change his thinking. He speculated that his life was in danger and made various protective efforts. In the end, it was not someone else, but him, who successfully pursued the goal that Balkan wanted to pursue - this should be understood as a spiritual pursuit; and according to the beliefs of Westerners, it is the pursuit of God.
Humans, in the end, may go to heaven or hell, depending on your choice in reality
. Negative Energy. Humans, in the end, may go to heaven, or they may go to hell, depending on which method and path you choose in your actual practical situation.
Organized on June 5, 2015, and supplemented in the morning of June 6.
Note: This summary is the 97th summary of the discussion since the establishment of Hangzhou Henglu Art Film Bar.
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